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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 24, 2010 -> 07:37 PM) I don't get the Bears game, but really, no. If Cutler hasn't recovered from the concussion he shouldn't be out there. If you only need a couple inches and you have 4 downs, a sneak makes very good sense on the first play, since the odds are it'll be nearly impossible for it to lose yardage, and you're not going to get fumbles very often since there's not even a handoff. If you're a yard or two away, then you go to the RB because you can't get that on a sneak. But the QB sneak is just inviting free shots at your vulnerable QB.

Holy cow, does he have a concussion again? The throw before that to Olsen was worse than the pick.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Oct 24, 2010 -> 08:33 PM) finally a break This game has been crazy...he was very close to being down there.

Can we also now state how f***ing idiotic it was to do a QB sneak with Cutler during the 3rd quarter on 1st and inches? Coming off of the concussion a few weeks back, at least give Taylor a try for a TD.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Oct 24, 2010 -> 07:28 PM) i agree with this...that pick was not entirely on hester at all....could he have broken the play up? probably...but cutler telegraphed the throw enough to let hall jump the route Maybe it was me, but it also seemed that Hester lost his footing on the play (as he does on about 50% of all pass plays to him).

The good news is that the offensive line is playing great in the 2nd half (compared to their typical performance)

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 24, 2010 -> 07:24 PM) Dude, you seriously need to open your eyes. If by disasterous, you mean one bad pick in the red zone, a td on a QB sneak (which it was, regardless of the call on the field), and Hester turning an incomplete into a pick, than whatever. Oh and they moved the ball the entire 3rd quarter. So seriously, you need to take a step back before you post this drivel. I'm sorry, but blaming that first interception 100% on Hester is so wrong. It was a good ready by Hall, and I'm not completely sure how Hester could have broken up the play. The amount of excuses made for Cutler baffle me. He played a great 2nd quarter and was playing great up until the reviewed Bennett play, but 3 turnovers in a span of 10 plays = disaster in my opinion.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Oct 24, 2010 -> 07:22 PM) Oh shutup, That was just a dumb dumb mistake by Cutler had nothing to do with the play before. So we can't expect our running back to be able to break a tackle in space? But I do agree with you, it was a dumb mistake by Cutler and now he seems completely frazzled.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Oct 24, 2010 -> 07:21 PM) how many ways can you blow a game here 1.) challenge a play bennett was clearly down on 2.) not challenge a play that was clearly a TD 3.) fumble said play 4.) Throw a pick in washington territory 5.) throw a pick 6 on the washington 10 yard line In addition you had a pick 6 taken back by a stupid delay of game penalty ....ugh Agreed, it's going to be a long two weeks if the Bears go on to lose this game. They dominated the 3rd quarter, and we're now losing.

That 3rd and pretty long was all set up by Forte's complete inability to ever break a tackle in the open field.

Ugh, Cutler with a disasterous 3rd quarter.

Bears now like 0-11 on 1 yard to go for a TD plays this year?

Lovie, you f***ing idiot. You deserve to get fired for not challenging that.

That's a TD by Cutler!

Hell of a drive by Cutler and Knox!

That should have been pass interference

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Oct 24, 2010 -> 07:06 PM) Olin Kruetz just got blow'd the f*** up. Seriously, this is amazing. How the f*** are they this bad? That was as dominating of a play as you'll see from a DT.

It's been almost a month since Jay Cutler last picked up a first down on a 3rd down play.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 21, 2010 -> 03:49 PM) He was clearly pissed because the previous pitches kept nearly hitting him. Terrible pitch selection going with an offspeed pitch after Uribe clearly seemed uncomfortable picking up the Oswalt fastball in that AB.

There's a bit of a 2003 Cubs vibe with the Rangers. Up 3-1 in the series, and everyone seems too confident they'll win based on who they have pitching in game 6 and/or 7.

Balta, with your theory about freeing up money, how do you feel about the Sox basically unloading Buehrle and his huge contract for minimal parts this offseason?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 20, 2010 -> 10:01 PM) How in the world would you have called that a huge failure? Was keeping Javy Vazquez in 2009 a better option, or were there people who were going to pay a better price? Just like with Swisher, it seemed that KW jumped at the first offer that came across the phone for Vazquez. Now, you might say there's no way to know if that is true or not. However, for him to make a deal so early into the offseason, he must have had some interest in Flowers. The deal is a huge failure if Flowers is a bust because the organization acquired him with thoughts of him being their catcher of the future. We're a team with a 100 million dollar payroll, so we shouldn't be happy just to unload a player's salary for nothing.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 20, 2010 -> 10:47 PM) The key to that deal is and always will be Tyler Flowers. This is how every trade for prospects works out, and why it is so difficult to deal with prospects. Some of them pan out, some of them don't. I've been trying to hammer this point through to the "pro-development" guys around here over and over, but not one ever addresses the downsides of trying to develop your own talent with assets that have a huge fail rate. There are so many costs associated with this beyond what anyone here has pointed out. What we have seen with Beckham and Flowers, amongst some others, is nothing compared to trying to keep 6-8 guys in the picture and have any clue what your collective team is going to perform like. Anyways, I digress...I'm not willing to write off Flowers just yet. Let's see where he is 4-5 years from now before we really know what we've got here. I'm not ready to write off Flowers either, but sadly, the Sox very well could be. We heard how down they were about him during ST of last year, and after this year's dismal season, who knows what opportunities they'll give him. Like you said, Flowers was the key to the deal, and if he doesn't pan out, then the trade was a huge failure.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 20, 2010 -> 09:07 PM) Well, no, because we still moved $22 million/2 years of salary, and while we lost potentially good production in 2009, we avoided paying that kind of money for a guy worth about as much as Kotsay in 2010. I'll be honest, to me, this seems like a very homeristic view of things to excuse KW for a bad trade. This could be what J4Life was talking about, but I don't want to speak for him. I'm sure KW had higher expectations for the trade than simply freeing up Javy's salary.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 20, 2010 -> 08:59 PM) My point was countering the argument that it was another of KW's "awful moves" Can't we just say the Javy deal was awful because we got virtually no Major League production so far from the 4 players we acquired, with the center piece of the deal being a bust so far?