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So let me get this straight...we pull our starters, but leave in our two most fragile players in PK and Griffey? If anything, get Swisher in the game and see if he can get some confidence.

It really pisses me off that we didn't give Poreda a chance to pitch out of the bullpen.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:50 AM) Tampa Bay will probably roll through to the world series, they are just HOT right now, jesus We are the opposite of hot. Who cares right now, I'll take our chances as long as we make it. If not, we'll be seeing this rematch in Tampa in two weeks, and none of us will care.

Twins threatening in the 6th. Can we just get Howell and Balfour in?

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:48 AM) Skipping a day was a bad idea. Thank Quentin for the day off of Monday to get these guys on the right day.

Ramirez has allowed 27 base runners in 11 innings.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:46 AM) nady crushes lefties Nonsense

QUOTE (BlackBetsy @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:45 AM) Scatterplot Javy's ERA against the winning percentage of the team he has been on since 2000 and tell me that he's not happier on losing teams. Vazquez is a f***ing loser. The 2006 Sox team scored runs in spades and he managed to have a losing record. His ERA is over 12 against the Yanks in his career.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:45 AM) Well, we would get out magic number down to 4 before we play the Twins at least. It's always darkest before the dawn, lol!!! Let's hope. I just keep thinking we have to win at least one more game in order to lose the rest and still have a chance to make it.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:44 AM) Well, this game turned into a disaster rather quickly. Horacio has that ability.

Well, go Tampa! Maybe Ramirez will throw 100 pitches and be too sore to pitch again this year.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:42 AM) Holy crap, I just checked gameday and we are only down 4-1. I would've thought it was 8-0 White Sox by reading this thread. Ask and you shall receive.

I hate you Ozzie, I really do. Why do you keep bringing in Ramirez? Designate his pathetic ass.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:41 AM) Javy and pitching in a big game don't go together well. And you have to be mentally tough to pitch on 3 days rest. Javy's not someone who can gut it out when he doesn't have his best stuff.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:40 AM) We're not winning this one And I predict we're going to have serious problems in Kansas City, you can put that on the board. Yep, if we don't start hitting, they will kick our ass.

QUOTE (That funky motion @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 01:39 AM) Noodle arm! What happened?

Get Javy out of there now! Terrible performance by him.

This has to be the last batter for Javy. If you walk Gardner and Molina, you deserve to have a big inning against you.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 01:34 AM) I am unable to watch, but am listening. Stone keeps talking off Javys arm slot being a lot lower than normal. Not surprising to see with Javy on short rest. Yep, he needs to be pulled after 5 innings, no matter what.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 01:32 AM) BTW, I'm curious to know, what does "Youth" bring to the lineup? Power, speed, clutch hitting? What does "youth" do to change the lineup? Nothing....screw youth, I want talented players like Brian Roberts.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:27 AM) If the Sox could get Cano, I would be happy. Then again, Walk might screw him up. Hudson would be nice too. I would prefer we keep Ramirez at 2b and find a SS. I agree, moving Ramirez to SS will be a huge mistake.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:25 AM) Swisher, Quentin and Ramirez are all younger players. Maybe giving Anderson/Wise a chance....and Fields...could conceiveably occur. Of course, nobody likes that version of "youth movement," we only want MVP's and ROY candidates. Wise is like a year younger than PK.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:22 AM) This offense is killing me right now. I want some youth injected into 09. Frighteningly, Hudson means "youth" to us. Hudson is the Yanks primary target after they trade Cano this offseason. I also read somewhere that Chone might have ligament damage in his elbow.

Our runs per game against AL East teams has to be miniscule.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 19, 2008 -> 12:15 AM) Why does DJ generally seem more insightful about our team than our own managers? What did he say?