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QUOTE(StatManDu @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 06:10 AM) My Brewer fan friends wound up calling him LineStink by the end of the season Yeah, he was bad for them, but Yost also had no clue when to put him in/pull him.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 03:54 AM) It at least partially worked for Hendry, but of course he didn't need to have all that great of team to win that division. Are the Cubs the first team in MLB to get swept by a team that got swept by a team that got swept in the playoffs? Yes

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 03:51 AM) This strikes me as KW taking the Jim Hendry route to fixing problems. How else was he going to fix it? The 3 arms that he acquired last year that were supposed to be relievers of the future for the Sox all seemed to fall out of favor.

We all knew KW would overpay for a reliever this offseason....when Kerry Wood's going to get 3 yrs, 20 million from someone, I don't mind this. Like someone else said, we're not paying the salary.

I don't mind the deal....it's less than I thought he'd get. I'd rather they overpay for a reliever than have to trade for one.

Chris Young

Not sure if this has been discussed on here, but KW said that he thinks his starting 5 will be Buehrle, Vaz, Contreras, Danks, and Floyd.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) Cause we all know Hamilton has no off-the-field problems Compared to Freel, he's a saint. Freel is trouble waiting to happen.

Less grinders, more skilled players. Freel has so many problem off the field, and he's not reliable on the field. Now Josh Hamilton.....where do I sign up?

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 05:24 PM) The Trib article about Hunter, Uribe and the other topical discussions dropped an interesting tidbit near the bottom. Pablo Ozuna has been playing shortstop in the Dominican League. As I recall, he started as a shortstop. Seems like maybe they are seeing if he can be a backup there. Yet another indicator that Uribe is likely not long for the team. Ozuna is supposed to be one of the poorest defensive shortstops the minor leagues have ever seen.

Best player on the court tonight has been Henderson. I've also been impressed with Nelson's offense and defense.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 04:14 AM) That call on Frazier right there was terrible. These refs have sucked both ways. No flow to the game at all. How many jump shots has Illinois actually made tonight? Can't be more than 5.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 04:10 AM) Illinois just does not have the offensive fire power to hold up in this game. And they've played some terrible, terrible D. Pruitt is a terrible help defender....it's probably the thing that Augustine did the best that no one appreciated.

Chicagosports says Bourgeois signed a minor league deal.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 03:21 AM) Agreed, I think it was more situational than anything though. And that 3rd call was a f***ing joke as well. It's been called the whole game though, you need to be smarter than that. I've always believed Randle's one of the dumbest players I've ever seen on the basketball court. Nice stretch for the Illini over the last 2 minutes, as they actually got the benefit on some calls from the refs.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 03:11 AM) Two cheap fouls on Randle. Shocking. Weber must have been watching a different Randle than I have during his Illini career. You can't leave him in there with 2 fouls in the 1st half. Illinois just has such a glaring weakness at shooting guard. They're solid at every other possession. The game plan from the get-go should have been going down low to Pruitt.

Brewers traded Estrada to the Mets for Mota. Two of the biggest assholes in baseball in one trade! Looks like Kendall will be the Brewers starting catcher next year.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 08:17 PM) Would you at the very least agree he would be better utilized elsewhere on the field? Yes, he should be starting at 3b no matter what, as Crede won't be with the team in 2009.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 08:15 PM) He claimed he really didn't get comfortable opening it up until towards the end of the season...he has some sort of mild quad or hamstring injury for most of the year that precluded him from feeling comfortable really turning on the wheels. That could explain it....his stride never seemed right when he was running.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 08:04 PM) Echoing a thought fathom has stated earlier, I have no problem with Konerko going; however, if Konerko is being traded to have Fields be moved to 1B, KW may as well be fired, because that's absolutely dumb that you have one of your most athletic players on the field playing 1B. Fields really isn't that athletic on the field. You would never know he was a collegiate QB. I'm one of his biggest fans on this site, but I was kind of disappointed in his speed.

No time to link, but rotoworld says Hunter could be shooting for either 7 year deal or Carlos Lee type 6 yrs, 100 mil. For those figures, just say no!

QUOTE(G&T @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 06:42 PM) The only reason any of exchange is happening is because a few of us want to know why we should "book it" that Hunter will be signed by Monday when all indications are the opposite. All I want, and I'm sure all that Fathom really wants, is some explanation for that position. Well, as 29th already stated, he was wrong about the meeting not taking place last night.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 06:14 PM) Just looking at the market, could a deal swapping Crede for Brett Myers be possible? I know he is sort of scum, and had an off season, but based on his contract, he could be available, and if you acquired him early enough, he could be stretched out into the 4th starter. Just kinda thinking out loud. No way, Phils want to make him a starter (#2). I think Crede will be on the Phillies within 10 days, but we might get someone like Greg Dobbs for him.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 06:15 PM) I guess it would be a golden rule moment for you... If you are going to demand "proof" from others, it probably is a good idea for you to live up to the same standards. The whole point is that people know from what avenue I'm getting my information from. No one knows that with ssi, and since he said it was a "gut feeling" earlier in this thread, I was just suggesting to him that if it's nothing more than a gut feeling, he might want to watch the wording.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 05:17 PM) To be fair, Semrau and Carlwell are both coming off life threatening injuries that took away the vast majority of their offseason, and Jordan is a walk on. But even once McCamey takes his spot in the starting lineup, a bench of Meacham, Cole, Tisdale, Brock, and TBD based on matchups isn't a bad thing. It's a shame Mike Davis didn't redshirt though, we'll regret it ala Shaun Pruitt and Warren Carter in a few years IMO. I've said this for a month now, but Carlwell and Semrau won't be in the program for 4 seasons.