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NBC reporting that it's 99 pct sure it's Biden.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 10:36 PM) That is wild and cool somebody ranked Willie No. 2 on their all time list. I would never even have thought of Willie but if he's your second fave player ever so be it. I am glad he got that hit and scored that run! Is he a starter this year? Is he a valuable big leaguer? I do hope Swish and OC do not make the list. My gawd, they are newcomers and not worthy of any fan favorite lists yet. So you're saying Carlos Quentin doesn't deserve to be on the list?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 10:35 PM) I'd say one big difference is the scale of the numbers each of the 2 had put up before being traded. Ramirez had nearly 2000 at bats as a Pirate before being traded, and had already put together a full season with an OPS of nearly 900. Agreed, and the Pirates had soured on him because of his terrible attitude/effort, as well as escalating salary. It's more comparable due to you wonder why in the hell would the initial organization give up a talent like that. But what do I know, the Pirates were able to replace Aramis at 3rd base with Doug Mientkiewicz this season.

QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 10:27 PM) He stole Aramis too, hell Randall Simon and I think Kenny Lofton were in that trade too that were big boosts for the cubs during that season as well. The Aramis trade and the Quentin trade are very similar in terms of getting organization-changing players. Hell, at least Chris Carter could be something in the majors. Bobby Hill just sucked.

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 08:50 PM) HUGE SERIES!!!! Go White Sox and Go Angels!!! Go Blue Jays

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 09:50 PM) You just missed a Willie Harris Grand Slam to put the Nationals up. Hilarious. I just saw that on yahoo...funny stuff. How far was it?

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 08:46 PM) That is a false statement and you know it. Guaranteed...I've hardly watched any Cubs games over the past month.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 09:26 PM) Should of contracted the Expos when the had the chance. Do the Nationals even have any minor league prospects that are touted? I'm still up in the air on Zimmerman. I'm a fan of Michael Burgess. Don't forget that they couldn't sign Crow. I promise I won't watch a second of this weekend series.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 08:58 PM) I can't decide if it is funny or sad that some people just cannot grasp the concept that this is a list of favorite players and that nobody's opinion is any more or less valid than anybody else's. I think more sad. From a spectator's point of view, I find it entertaining to read the bickering.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 07:59 PM) no, not at all. I've just read about 20 posts (in various threads) berating this list, and I think its a little silly and I think we should take the list for what its worth. Willie Harris wouldn't be in my top 50 favorite players, but I could see the attraction. 'nough said. Yeah, after being on this board for about 4 years, you realize how some people generate a fan base while others don't. It reminds me of how 2 years ago, the U.S. Cellular in Homewood had Sox players there on consecutive weekends for autographs. The first weekend was Pods, and the line must have been 500 people deep. The next weekend was Garland, and literally there were 5 people there.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 08:53 PM) its not a list of "who's the best," its a list of "who's your favorite." The majority of posters on this board are younger, and they're going to remember guys like Willie Harris fondly over a guy like Kirk McCaskill or Dan Pasqua. I don't agree with it, but I didn't participate by making a list, and I understand the philosophy behind the list. Seriously, we don't need 5 posts from people every new thread talking about how "__________" makes the list a waste or whatever. I get it, I feel your pain, but just chill out already. Was that directed at me? I'm actually upset I didn't participate in this, as it would have allowed me to reflect on some players I don't often think about (Ellis Burks is a great example).

Since this is all for fun and games, I'll say this....Bobby Jenks deserves to be in the top 5. When you look at what he's done with the Sox, it's nothing short of incredible. His legacy will last longer with the organization than that of Ventura or Durham or (gulp) Rowand.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 08:28 PM) baltimore is probably one of the best, if not the best "Bad Team" in the AL IMO, it's either them or the Tigers, orioles always seem to play us well and usually every single time we play them Bobby gets a save opp, which means the games are usually always close and Jenks usually blows the save vs them. Who do both teams have coming up in the suspended game?

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 08:27 PM) Yeah, Willie Harris? c'mon guys. I'm calling it now by the way, Aaron Rowand will be number one, which is a crime. I'm predicting a top 5 of Thomas, Buehrle, Quentin, Konerko, Paniagua

I do have to say that their 12 pack cooler giveaway with their 5 starting pitchers on it is a sweet promotion.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 07:22 PM) No. Angels are the best team in the AL. They pants us when we played them and they gave it to the red sox a month or so ago. They pantsed us? We split in Anaheim, and we could have easily won all 4 games there. If the Sox could learn how to hit Weaver, I'd say we're the better team. The Sox have a better player at every position besides 1b, 3b, and CF.

QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 06:20 PM) Plan on getting rid of the dvd player? Nah, she won't want to watch it again.

Not only that, but their TV announcer last night absolutely sucked.

Want to know when you know you have a great mom? When she takes your wife to "Sisterhood of Traveling Pants 2" so that you will never, ever have to see it.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 04:49 PM) Men's VB last night, I enjoyed watching several guys I played against back in the day, especially Sean Rooney who went on a jump serving tear to really turn the tide on the Russians. That match was so much more entertaining that beach volleyball. Considering the circumstances with the coach, it's too bad they're not getting more attention.

It's amazing how low Garland was on the list. It just seems like he never really connected with the White Sox fan base.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 06:26 AM) Yeah, we really need the Angels to take 3 of 4 because we'll be lucky if the Mariners can get 1 of 3, and hopefully the A's can get 1 of 4, then hope for the Blue Jays to get 2 of 3. With Duchsherer and Gallagher out, I don't even want to think about who the A's will start. Also, how's it looking for the Twins getting Halladay?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 22, 2008 -> 06:25 AM) 1) Torii Hunter, since he hurt his ankle a couple of seasons ago, is just an average at best defensive CFer now 2) The Angels aren't that good...in fact, it's almost like they have White Sox-itis, with the boppers now in the middle of the line-up, they've forgotten how to execute and manufacture runs....their pitching is saving them this season, but I think they will go down in the first round of the playoffs. Whenever I say I'm worried the Cubs will win the World Series, I always get the response "not if they have to go through the Angels". There's no way this Angels team would be able to outslug the Cubs. Gage...you might know this. Do the Angels allow their minor leaguers to use aluminum bats? Guys like Rodriguez and Wood put up huge minor league numbers, and when they get called up, they look like pitchers at the plate.

Ugh, awful start to the road trip from the Sox standpoint.

This Angels offensive effort tonight is one of the worst I've seen this season. One hit in the last 8 innings, and that hit was a cheap infield single.