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Contreras getting helped off the field reminds me of people at a retirement home getting help walking.

I don't care if he gets up and starts walking....shut him down!!!!!!!!

And down goes Contreras. He looks injured...time to shut him down for the season. This season can't end soon enough.

It's getting to the point where if we can get some good value for Contreras, you have to consider trading him. There's been such a huge decline in his stuff since last season. No one is mentioning how he's throwing 3 mph less than he was last year.

Wow...why are we even bothering playing these games? I can't believe how much this team has flat out quit.

The crowd is starting to boo. I hope Ozzie has a very short leash with Contreras tonight. We might as well shut him down for the rest of the year. Good grief...get someone up in the bullpen. What a disaster Contreras has been since his injury.

Ah what a shocker...Contreras gets burned when he drops down on a pitch and leaves it over the inner-half. Looks like it was the medicore slider....AGAIN!

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 23, 2006 -> 12:50 AM) I'm an Iowa State fan....if I was pessimistic about anything I'd be on suicide watch. You think following this team is bad? Iowa State likes to feast on broken dreams. Does Ia St. have anyone besides R. Clark that can play at a high level in the upcoming cbb season?

Interesting shift against Dye...good thing the Astros didn't use it in game 4 of the WS.

QUOTE(RX Bandits @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 03:39 AM) STOP USING WORDS LIKE "EFFORT" AND "HEART" AND "THEY DONT CARE (ok thats a sentence)" These guys care, they just suck. It's their job to care. Unless you can prove to me that they are not giving any "effort" you cant say that. Ok...Scott Podsednik not running all the way to 3rd base on a stolen base attempt in a crucial game. AJP watching a ball off the bat, and not hustling into 2nd base in that same game. Those are two great examples of players not giving 100 pct effort during crunch time. QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 03:40 AM) But......I thought Guillen would never allow that to happen? You know, he'd just make everyone laugh and joke, then they'd suddenly begin clicking as a team. I honestly wonder how well he gets along with these players now. We've all heard rumors, but I wonder how much respect the core guys have for Ozzie.

QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:39 AM) I really really hope they don't bring Riske back... KW has A LOT of work to do this offseason. They won't....he's washed-up, and his stuff is pathetic. He reminds me of early season Freddy.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:39 AM) It just got funny bad. Looking back, it's been funny bad for a few weeks now.

Here comes the booing. Are we officially allowed to say that this team has quit?

The funny thing is that we would have been better off calling up Javier Lopez, and let him face lefties than to have Riske throw his 88 mph fastball up to the plate.

QUOTE(TheOcho @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:35 AM) I love how people thought Boone would be good back at the start of the season. Kid needs more time in AA or A. His presence on the Sox this year has done nothing but hurt us. His inability to get a few outs on that Saturday night win against the Indians really hurt us, as it forced MacDougal to have to pitch consecutive games and not be available for 4 games.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:34 AM) Jerry Owens in CF. Ozzie is getting his sneak peak of his leadoff guy, who cant hit his way out of a paper bag, has no arm, and wouldnt start on 99% of the teams. Ozze cant wait to emasculate the offense next year in the name of speed. Its one thing to get a fast guy who has a nice line drive swing, takes pitches, and maybe can swipe a base or two. But he will go for the guy who cant hit, is fast, but never gets on, and is basically a paper tiger up at the top of the lineup. Jerry Owens is a terrible hitter...if he's starting for us in the outfield, we're going to get 4th place in the AL Central. I'd much rather we sign Juan Pierre than to give Owens the chance to start.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:29 AM) Only during home games. There's a long list of guys that I've heard in the last year who have their troubles going straight home to their family. I'm not going to state their names on this site....but it's not really surprising.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:25 AM) when it comes down to it...the player either accepts losing and goes home to the wife in his mansion... Yep...I'm sure a lot of them head right home to their wife.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:23 AM) Maybe the Sox should look into getting some garbage, soft tossing left handed starters for next year. Mark Redman is a free agent. He made the Sox and Twins look silly. You mean Mark Buehrle?

So far, the lesser hitting Willie Harris seems like a good analogy. If we face the Twins next weekend, and the game matters for them, Santana's going to no-hit us.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:19 AM) urgency is something like an intangible...we let those players go...i will say that i am surprised that AJ is taking this so well...?? he is the one guy that i thought would show his face...OZ probably told the guys to let him do all that... AJP's been a dog this entire 2nd half of the season. Everyone keeps saying we need these "urgent" players like Rowand, etc. Isn't this what Ozzie is supposed to be good at?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:18 AM) magic 8 ball is on the fritz. He needs a refund on that.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 02:18 AM) magic 8 ball is on the fritz. How can Javy get the win if he's pulled after 7 and we're losing? Also, we have to do this, so this way people can say how fatigued are starters are NEXT year due to how many innings they threw this year.

Why in the world are we using MacDougal? We need to be as cautious as possible with him now. Can PK give up his captain position?

We all know the season is over...but don't you think these players would have at least a little urgency tonight knowing that their season's not over, and the Twins/Tigers lost?