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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 10:07 PM) I actually said to my friends who I'm watching the game with: "Adam Kennedy will break this up." That guy is a f***in pest. Anyways, fantastic Freddy, f'n awesome. He used to be a pest...but didn't he just suck against us in the ALCS last year?

I think Liriano leaving that game with an injury might have given this team a huge spark.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 10:02 PM) That base hit gives the green light for fathom and southsideirish71 to post in this thread now. Um...I was in this thread earlier today. I'm at work, and have extremely limited internet access. If there's anyone that should never be accused of only posting when the Sox are either winning/losing, it should be me.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 09:32 PM) Am I the only one who's extremely torn when it comes to Garcia's possible perfect game? I mean he is a White Sox player and all but this is more of a personal accomplishment and I really dislike Freddy Garcia, he is without a doubt my least favorite player on this team (outside of Podsednik) and I'd rather he not be one of the worst pitchers ever to pitch a perfect game. Just win the freaking game.

There just seems to be no communication by the Sox players on the bases this year, and that involves our 1b and 3b coaches. Just think how many other times this year we've had a guy caught in a rundown due to Cora giving the stop sign too late.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 08:21 PM) Remember when Uribe was a gap hitter? You mean in 2004, where he had enough power to hit it out to right center? I know Cintron's defense isn't great, but he needs to be playing at least once every series at SS. Uribe is worthless against a lefty with a good change-up.

Uribe still batting? BTW, good job Thome.

Can't watch the game today...I'd appreciate as many updates and observations as possible. I will say that this 7-8-9 in our lineup is terrible.

Feel free to get a hit against a LHP starter Mr. Thome.

I'd like to see Fields get a chance to DH tomorrow. Thome's been useless against lefties recently anyways.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:46 AM) Does it seem to anyone like Jermaine Dye is plummeting right out of the MVP race right along with the White Sox in the pennant race? And not just because the team is losing, but also because Dye all of a sudden isn't getting the job done? Dye looks very tired at the plate. He's not getting his arms extended, and has been hitting a lot of choppers to the left side. He's literally the last guy in this organization though that should receive any criticism right now. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:52 AM) He had a great call during the one inning the offense decided to show up. After f***ing up the score twice in a row he simply blurted out; "I'm getting excited up here!" So great. I wish I could say with any confidence that the Sox would turn to a nice high OBP, above average defender at leadoff next year but I just can't. I just have that sickening feeling that if Pierre isn't resigned by the Cubs sometime soon we'll be seeing Juan "I suck at life" Pierre prancing around LF next season. Pierre won't be coming here to play LF...it will be in CF. With each passing day, I think that situation is more likely.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:36 AM) Is that really that bad? I still feel like we have a chance to make the playoffs. There's no reason to state that the season is over. We'll have all offseason to reflect on what went wrong. Might as well follow the next 2 1/2 weeks of the season, and hope for the best. QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:38 AM) Julian Taverez, Runnynose Hernandez, anything that the Royals or Devil Rays have thrown out. None of these are good. We've lost twice to Runelvys Hernandez, Gappard, Tavarez, Redman, Jason Hamel.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:36 AM) Blame Owens??? That has to be a joke. There is some blame to go around in this game...but none of it goes to Owens. I'll say this about Owens. He had one of the worst jumps I've ever seen on his steal attempt. I don't think he's anywhere close to being a polished enough player to even be a reserve in the majors.

QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:34 AM) thats true, but I don't necessarily think its because of lack of offensive approach that was infuriating me earlier in the year, its more of the fact that we just haven't been able to come up with hits (and keep in mind we've been facing good pitchers anyways) We're facing good teams....you're going to face good pitchers. We had a 3 week stretch where we faced mediocre pitchers, and our offense crapped the bed.

QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:33 AM) By the way, Ronge just reacted with shock when a caller suggested that MacD was hurt. He thinks going with Hermanson was a good move. I now have to get back to the planet Earth. Can we put him on the same one-way train as Pods and Cora?

If you're going to blame anyone on that play, AJP is guilty of not hustling out of the box. If he gets to 2nd (no excuse not to), Crede gets intentionally walked, and then Mackowiak is up with the bases loaded with 1 out. Plain and simple, this team didn't hustle tonight. Ozzie should be ashamed for letting some of the same players get away with not busting their ass on the field.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:31 AM) Far too often this season, they have been playing like they've dropped dead. This includes play in the stretch run of a pennant race. How could they be so down? I don't know, but they sure have been. No offense to the poster you're quoting, but when is it time to consider that each individual loss puts us too far out of reach? QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:31 AM) What, exactly, would you call their stellar play over the last two months? Typical White Sox 2nd half baseball

QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:29 AM) man the pessimism is driving me nuts around here, I know things don't look good but the season is not over it might be much harder to make the playoffs than we had hoped, but its not like we've dropped dead I think if we can hang even with detroit until next week and sweep them then we have a damn good chance at making the playoffs the recent play has been looking up, it just has not translated to wins tonights game was not as disgustingly bad as people are making it out to be. K-Rod has not allowed a run in 3 months and people are mad we blew an opportunity to score off of him? And besides that inning we only blew 1 other opportunity (less than the angels did); we had some hard hit balls that got caught, the Angels played some good defense and ended up with the win so yes it sucked, but the season isn't over We've now scored in 3 innings out of our last 33 innings or so.

Can we see Fields at DH tomorrow, and give Thome a day off?

QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:25 AM) But they don't have anything besides 2 starters. I thought they were done? They have like 6 good relievers in their pen....not exactly like our 2 reliable guys now (might be 1 by the time the paper comes out tomorrow).

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:23 AM) At least I still have the Redskins....oh, wait.... Is it basketball season yet? Who do you have then.....Singletary and J.R. Reynolds?

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:23 AM) Those two guys are reasons that I'm not entirely optimistic about his team's future. Both of them are old players and could go down with major injuries at any time. Plus, skills tend to diminish at their ages. Bonderman, A. Miller, Zumaya, Santana, Liriano, Garza, Sabathia, and Sowers. Those guys worry me about our team's future. QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:24 AM) There isn't a chance in hell that Im going to stop rooting for this, or stop watching. And im sure this team will give us all another big tease, and 10 other idiots will do the same dumb ass thing im doing now. Its just beyond frustrating, and I guess tonight was my breaking point. The disappointing thing to me was just to see Gload's hustle on his double....and how we don't see that from our core players. I made the comment that we need more Pablo in extra innings. I think I'd rather see Gload and Pablo bat in extra innings than Thome and PK.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:20 AM) Definitely not over, but logistically doesn't look very good. Schedule favors the Tigers and Twins bigtime. Twins will run away with it though with Liriano back. I think we have to go 2-2 over the next 4 and then sweep the Tigers and hope KC plays against them like they do against us. The Twins have given us no reason to think they won't keep playing excellent baseball.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:21 AM) Its over. Im sick of seeing myself care more about these games then our manager and our hitters. Its disgusting. This team isnt just going to turn "it" on. "It" left a while ago, and there is no reason to think "IT" is coming back. Well...if you think we won't make it, then root for more games where Pods disgraces himself, just to make sure he doesn't come back next year. Also, I'll say a prayer that Ozzie goes off in the media again, and Garcia tells off his teammates again. Real quick...please don't close this thread mods. It's very civil, and it's easier to keep the conversation going.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 05:20 AM) I guess I'd root for Maggs also. Tigers and A's. Maybe it's me, but I don't want to see Ordonez or Thomas win the WS if they're not on the White Sox. It would be like rooting for my fiance to marry a millionaire if we ever divorce.