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I always liked Nomar, and after he had absolutely no impact on the Cubs, I like him even more.

Something a lot of us are forgetting is that KW and company might be looking to get rid of Willie and Gload. Until I see it's official that Timo's off the team, he's the most likely guy to get the last spot.

- Meche will get a solid amount of money to be a starter with a team. - The Brewers are looking for a way to bring in Kolb for a smaller amount than what his contract calls for.

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 18, 2005 -> 02:00 AM) True, but I think Owens would be better off in AAA than in the majors. If it's between Owens or Willie, I'd much rather it be Owens.

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 18, 2005 -> 01:44 AM) I would want to see just about anyone other than Owens. I don't want to see his development hindered by sitting on the bench the whole year when he could be starting in AAA. The way Ozzie uses his bench, Owens would get plenty of starts. As long as it's not Timo, I'll be happy.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 11:45 PM) Good points, I just think the idea of defense and pitching should be our mantra forever and Jon unless he gets broke appears to be one of those special talents (as long as he keeps listening to Buehrle and works fast). I think Mark B, Jon and Fred should be our big three for the next 7 years. Considering I've seen Garcia lose about 3 mph from his fastball in the last few years, I'm sure he'll be able to top out at about 86 mph in 7 years.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) I chose Willie because of that base hit he got in the Series. If that's the case, then we should have brought Blum back. Willie Harris won't be on the roster next season.

QUOTE(kevin57 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) I agree there will be a signing for 2-3 years. It will be "reasonable" given the strastopheric salaries going to starters this year. I really do hope JG or his agent say SOMETHING. I would love to have him signed for 3-4 years, but I'm not optimistic. I think Garland let his feelings be known about testing free agency, and that's why he's on the market now.

QUOTE(southsida86 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) I think that KW should wait until there is NO starting pitching left and the Rangers are desprate, then Propose a trade of Garland and Crede for Blaylock, Wilkerson, Diamond and Danks. If KW could make that deal it would be Awesome!!! It may seem unrealistic, but if they are desprate they may do it. :headshake

QUOTE(Pierzynski 12 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 07:49 PM) Well it wouldn't have been on chicagosports.com, if he wasn't interested in playing for the Bears. Or maybe it could have been a human interest piece on a very well-known Chicago product. Also, the article was written prior to the Bears/Steelers game.

It sounds optimistic, but the Sox still haven't offered him a deal. Still a long way to go it sounds for him to officially sign.

According to my source, Guzman makes B.J. Upton look like a Gold Glove infielder. Guzman projects as either a LF, RF, or 1B.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 06:50 PM) Is this trade gonna become official today? Counting on Duque to pass a physical is like counting on Kyle Orton to pick up a first down on 3rd-and-3......nothing's a sure thing.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 07:03 AM) Source? I can't find it right now, but I think it was in an Arizona paper with quotes from a team official.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 07:22 AM) They want to move julio because he has looked worse each year for each of the least three years now. He is like all the hard throwing arms the tigers have had in their pen in the past. Projects that just end up getting worse when they should be getting better. Julio would be our worst reliever far and away next year and will likely be our most expensive. Say no to julio. I hate Julio, but he seems to me the type of guy that KW would pick up and hope that he regains his effectiveness.

1- finalize Vazquez trade 2- resign Contreras to 2 yr/20 million dollar extension 3- trade Garland/Crede to Orioles for Mora/Julio/prospect

I have no clue if this has been reported on here, but the Sox are only getting 3 million from Arizona.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 01:05 AM) spaces between paragraphs please I had tabs for the new paragraphs, but they're didn't carry over on the post. I fixed it, as it was even bothering me to look at it.

QUOTE(TLAK @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 01:04 AM) I think the White Sox are taking a great risk here. Yes they are. And maybe, just maybe, it's cause JR, KW, and Ozzie realize that changes needed to be made in order to continue to field a championship caliber team. Don't forget, the Indians are a team with a ton of momentum building up in their organization, and they're going to be damn good in the next 3-5 years also.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:59 AM) That was a few years back. Lefty IIRC, but he's had injury problems and was in the majors a few years ago. Haven't heard anything about him in a while though. Injuries have made him lose most of his stuff. I'll be surprised if he's ever a solid starter in the majors again.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:12 AM) I don't know about that. Young has said as soon as his 6 years are up, he's gone. Exactly...but they still have 6 years with him, and they're hoping to build their team up in 2 to 4 years where they can compete with these guys. Out of everyone in baseball, Upton and Young might be 2 of the 10 most unlikely guys to get traded.

Just think of this....why in the hell would they trade Upton for Garland? There's not a single reason why they would do that.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 12:04 AM) How do you know? I was stunned they offered up Kazmir. Andy Marte got traded. He's not untouchable People know that I have a source that works with the team, and him and Young are the future of that organization.

Upton's not getting traded, END OF STORY!

QUOTE(quickman @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) Neither do I, but this board is completely enamored with prospects despite the fact that the majority never make it. Absolutely, especially in our system. This isn't bashing the organization, but we've been less than stellar at developing players over the last 10 years.