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QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:57 AM) God i hope that doesn't happen, but it seems to me that ozzie has to play his "boyfriend" at least 4 times a week now. 99 pct chance he's leading off tomorrow. It's not even that I'm upset he's leading off. Rather, Timo being the LEADOFF hitter represents everything that has gone wrong in the month of August with the White Sox.

Note to offense: In order to win a game, you need to score a run.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:46 AM) But this year he is also the luckiest too. But i would say he isn't that good at managing. My dream manager would be Steve Stone, that guy is a freakin' genius. He knows a lot about the game and when to do certain things in a game. He's our next GM, not manager.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:42 AM) Have I missed Ozzie taking the bats out of our guys' hands and swinging wildly at horrible pitches for them? - Ozzie consistently leaves our starting pitcher way too long. Is it a coincidence that Buehrle, Garcia (before tonight), and Garland have struggled in the 2nd half of the season? - Ozzie's love for Timo is sickening! To take the bat out of Iguchi's hands for Timo in the 9th was f***ing pathetic. How many times has Iguchi come through in situations like that leading off an inning late in the game? Also, Timo leading off games is just a perfect example of the complacency within the organization. - Ozzie's lack of hit-and-run on a team that's living or dying with the homer. - Ozzie's inability and lack of trying new lineups in order to provide a spark.

I don't know if this will help some of the people who are thinking of jumping off the ledge, but I've been saying this for a while: If the 2005 Sox don't make the playoffs, then they didn't deserve to make it. They had absolute control of their destiny to make the playoffs, and if they don't, there's no one to blame but the WHOLE organization. Not umpires, announcers, fans on a message board, or attendance figures.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:41 AM) Ha, the Royals? There's no way. And I prefer OMIT TIMO!!! The Royals were once one of the best franchises in baseball. Also, I bet you two seasons ago, they thought they were primed for a great stretch.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:40 AM) While I still believe the White Sox will win the division, I have lost alot of hope in this teams offense, in Ozzie Guillen as a manager, and in Kenny Williams as a general manager. I never liked Ozzie's in-game managing ability...and this recent stretch has only proven to me that he has no clue what he's doing on the bench.

QUOTE(Purdue129 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:36 AM) Just got back from the dome. There were a decent amount of Sox fans there. We were sitting 2 rows behind the Sox bullpen. Man Soo was super chatty all game, like usual. Marte tossed me the ball he was warming up with in the 9th, which was the highlight of the night. When Marte tossed you the ball, was it high and outside?

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:34 AM) I'm diving head first......into the ship's pool. I'll always be in with this team and support them. Sure I'll say some negative things, but I'll always have a smile with a win, and I'll always have a knife in my heart with a loss. No matter what, the White Sox are apart of my life and they will always be. Anyone who's giving up on rooting for the Sox now is a f***ing pussy. First, baseball is one of most important things in my life.......but I can't do anything to change the results, so you have to learn how to deal with it. If you're going to give up when you're 7 games up in the division, I can't imagine what your life must be like about 9 out of 10 baseball seasons. Enjoy the rest of this season, because there's no guarantee we don't turn into the Royals in the future. Now....f*** TIMO!

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) Once we get into the playoffs, anything can happen. I don't care if we barely squeak in... Will I get nervous as hell if it gets down to 5 or 4 games? Hell yeah. I just don't see it. I cannot fathom this type of colossal collapse. We were playing too well early on to not be a playoff team this year, and I believe that we can reach that level of play and make the playoffs. Once there, anything can happen. I still believe. The thing is, the Indians have finally woken up this season. Their offense was totally underachieving this season. However, guys like Martinez and Blake have picked their games up. They scare me a lot more than the Twins do. And I'm not so sure that this Sox team has enough talent to hold off a fast charging talented team like the Indians. Our offense just sucks....you can't win if you don't score.

I can't wait until next week when the Rangers are playing home run derby against our starters, and Ozzie is trying to play smallball with Timo.

QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:13 AM) We just got to hold on for dear life until Pods comes back. Can Pods play the left side of the infield?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:11 AM) No hope needed. We are 7 games up, not down. Time will run out for the indians no matter how hot they may seem. I actually appreciate the optimism at a time like this. As a Sox fan though, isn't it a little sickening that seemingly every night, we say the same thing, but with a lower number?

QUOTE(soxman352000 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) This is BS I can't believe they keep winning like this If you haven't seen the non-balk call.....DONT! It will just piss you off.

I can't wait to see Timo leading off!

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:08 AM) Look at the timeline. The decline in offense corresponds with Podsednik's injury. For anyone who says it started a few games before he went on the DL, wasn't his DL stint retroactive? The offense was fading fast well before Pods went on the DL. Also, don't get your hopes up for a speed player coming back strong after a groin injury.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:06 AM) Looks like an SOS to Rafael Furcal in the off-season, unless a better solution via a trade can be found for 3rd base. I'm also of the opinion Everett needs to pick it up, even though August has been the 2nd best month this season for him. Furcal's a Cubs player if the Braves don't resign him.

QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:56 AM) Futility is going in to the bottom of the 9th with a 3 run lead and watching Foulke give up 4 (f***ing Denny Hocking). Futility is an easy inning ending DP and watching Valentin throw the ball into the f***ing dugout. Futility is an 18-3 beatdown. This was just bad luck. Bad luck? J. Jones blasted a hanging curveball. Rowand had numerous meatballs to hit tonight, and he was too busy fouling them off over the dugout. Luck didn't make Stewart and Ford catch those balls. If so, then J. Dye got very lucky also. Our offense flat out blows, and our manager has no f***ing clue how to manage a team during a game. What a f***ing insult to Iguchi to get lifted for a ph.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:54 AM) I have been a whitesox fan since I can remember. I have seen some pathetic losses over my years. The only thing this would motivate me to do, is line up with all my sox bretheren at Soxfest for the Q&A session for Kenny or his successor depending if we collapse. Let me help you plan your speech: "Mr. Stone, can I ask you a question"?

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:00 AM) No Maggs, no Frank & yet they had a winning record in Sept in 2004. The past 5 yrs: all winning records in Sept. None of those teams could pitch like this one. Defintely IN. And in all but one of those Septembers, the games were pretty much meaningless facing other September call-ups.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:00 AM) In If they don't have a meeting with the team now then don't have it at all. This is it, they can't keep losing anymore, if they don't change tomorrow its over. They've had numerous team meetings lately. KW owes this team a spark plug, I don't care what he has to do. I'm not saying he needs to trade the farm....rather, do SOMETHING that picks this team up. This team has absolutely no confidence at the plate.

QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:59 AM) Whats so special about Sunday? I think he's talking about Pods, who seemingly has become the greatest player ever since his injury.

I'm in, because we still have a 7 game lead. Seriously, can you imagine what it will be like if/when this lead is down to 1?

I think it's funny how Hawk tried to say this wasn't like other games we tanked vs the Twins. I think this was the prototype game that sums up the futility we've had vs the Twins in previous seasons. Great defense by the Twins, terrible execution by the Sox, and that timely homer by the Twins.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:47 AM) You really think picking up one of those guys would make this offense hit? You think we would have won this game if we had Eduardo Perez? It would be an excellent start. Perez has a .945 OPS against lefties, and would be very cheap to acquire. He'd also give you a back-up at 1b for PK. Ozuna should never, ever play 3rd base again. I appreciate Ozuna's hustle, but I've never seen a 3rd baseman look worse on defense.