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Ugh, I forgot just how bad Pablo is in LF. Another season of s*** outfield defense should be fun.

Jermaine Dye is f***ing big time. Such a great hitter.

Rogers started game 3 of the ALDS behind Verlander, game 3 or the ALCS behind Verlander and game 2 of the World Series behind Verlander. Hmm. Verlander and Bonderman = 23 year old inexperienced pups, Rogers = 41 year old seen-it-all vet with a perfect game and previous playoff experience under his belt and Verlander still pitched ahead of Rogers in each series. Do you really think Kenny Rogers is better than Verlander or Bonderman?

If the Sox lose Contreras they're f***ed seeing as how he's their best starter. Rogers on the other hand is the Tigers' 3rd best starter and once his replacement Chad Durbin s***s the bed we'll see another of their future aces in Andrew Miller. This injury sucks and all but it's hardly going to derail the Tigers' season.

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 03:51 PM) It's the classic "Give 1 guy a 15 second head start and see if everyone else can catch up" scenario. Santana + Nathan. It's simply impossible to have a bad pitching staff with that. It's always going to at least be decent. + Neshek + Rincon + Guerrier the rest is pure dogs*** or unproven young talent.

QUOTE(JohnCangelosi @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 02:35 PM) Do you think it's a bit of a stretch to say he "completely broke down"? I mean, he was 41 of 45 save opps as I recall (I am not looking at the stats). Yes, he blew some big games for us- in fact the one against Boston at Fenway I ended up punching my desk and smashed it up pretty good. He sucked as did the rest of the bullpen in the second half but I still dont think it was a complete break down...I think that's a bit of an overstatement... Fine, he broke down, take away the adverb and it stands true. He lost a ton of velocity, wasn't snapping his curve, lost all control of his pitches and was being used in non-save situations (mainly because they weren't leading very often after 8.) I don't have a lot of confidence in a guy who from July 5th through the end of the year was pretty ineffective. Which sucks because he's one of the most talented pitchers to ever wear a Sox uni. OPENING DAY - JULY 4: 2-1 | 38 G | 25 SV | 37.1 IP | 28 H | 10 R | 10 ER | 11 BB | 43 K | 2 HR | 2.41 ERA | 1.02 WHIP | 4 SB JULY 5 - SEPT 29: 1-3 | 29 G | 16 SV | 32.1 IP | 38 H | 22 R | 21 ER | 20 BB | 37 K | 3 HR | 5.85 ERA | 1.79 WHIP | 7 SB Luckily the Sox have MacDougal backing him up, so I'm not incredibly worried. That SEPT 8th game Vs Cleveland still gives me nightmares. SO MANY DOUBLES!!

Mark Buehrle Vs Chuck James in Atlanta in the final locally televised Spring game. I don't know why but I'm kind of excited to see this game, finally a prime time game being played in a real ballpark. Plus we're only 3 days away from Opening Day.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) These are pitchers that they drafted right? That some good drafting. Bonderman they got in exchange for Jeff Weaver back in 2002. Verlander they got with the 2nd overall pick in the 2004 draft. Zumaya they got in the 11th round of the 2002 draft back when he was throwing in the low 90's. That was more of fluky luck than anything. Maroth they got from Boston in exchange for Bryce Florie in 1999. He's not a great starter but certainly an effective one. Robertson is a no talent hack who had a career year last season, the Sox actually drafted him twice but he did not sign. The Tigers got him from the Marlins in exchange for Mark Redman in 2003 Zach Miner they got from the Braves in exchange for Kyle Farnsworth at the trade deadline in '05. Great deal. Andrew Miller they drafted 6th overall in last year's draft, easily the best pitcher in the whole damn thing, fell do to signability and the Tigers stole him with the 6th pick, great move. Wilfredo Ledezma who is still young and pretty damn talented was a Rule V pick from the Red Sox in '02. Fernando Rodney was signed as an amateur free agent from the Dominican Republic in 1997. Yeah, they've done a pretty good job stock piling arms.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:45 PM) The Gambler goes down. He gambled and lost. That guys a douchebag. Where the hell did Detoit get so many good pitchers. They've been terrible for about 13 years now giving them some pretty high draft picks and Dave Dombrowski is a pretty good GM.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:45 PM) Eww gross. I'll stick to my girlfriend giving me head. Or lonely drifters in need of a little scratch.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:42 PM) everyone freaks out easily around here. Sox lose like 2 games in a row and they want KW head. Oh and Pods and Erstad are the devil. Is this all you have on your mind or do you have anything else to share outside of conjecture? At least the people who are 'freaking out' have an argument behind their statements.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) Totally the wrong way to phrase that. Anyway...I think there's also a real chance that Rogers could come back and struggle more than helping when he does return. I wonder how that newfound positive attitude he seemed to have last year will be able to take this injury. Now do they go with Miner or Miller? We can only hope they want to give Miller a bit more seasoning before they start his arbitration clock and instead turn to Zach Miner to fill out the rotation. At least the Sox proved they could hit him last season.

QUOTE(JohnCangelosi @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:33 PM) I just joined, but I could only IMAGINE what people were saying when Cleveland was on our tail late in the season 05. My guess is a majority poll of people here would say they were going to miss the playoffs entirely... No, not really. I'm not ready to call 1 year a trend, just because Jenks regained some of his velocity last year after not having much in the spring does not mean he'll do the same this season. Not to mention the fact that he completely broke down in the second half last year, these factors are not exactly encouraging. There's already reports that Jenks has gained weight since arriving in Arizona and his arm is still being held together by a few screws. Luckily there's a pretty solid backup plan in Mike MacDougal, though having to use him would take all the depth out of the pen, I'm not all that worried about the closer.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) He's a little more than banged up now. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...57562&st=15 So now they replace him with the #10 prospect in all of baseball and the best player in last year's draft, lefty Andrew Miller. Fun.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 12:59 PM) I honestly don't see this team winning a game this year. The team should just cancel the year. Why are we even on here, close the boards. Sell you Sox gear. The team will be shut down. The world is ending!!!!!!!! Honestly this whole "we suck" vibe is gettin old and boring. I do not remember reading any of that, perhaps you're mistaking this forum for another one?

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 12:34 PM) I love it! Just where I want to be: fourth. Fine with me. Hell, make us 5th for all I care. At least the pressure's off. So am I the only one that doesn't buy this at all?

He also picked Randy Johnson to win the Cy Young in the NL because he had 17 wins last season. Some great logic there Scott.

Jared Weaver has also been having some Bicep problems and will start the year on the DL.

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Doesn't look like there's any sort of television or radio for either game. Sucks.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 29, 2007 -> 01:50 PM) I think that our definitions of "career year" might differ somewhat. I don't think last season was a "fluke" and I don't think that that Bonderman will return to mediocrity, but I'm not convinced that he'll better his performance last season, either. What's to stop Bonderman from pulling an '06 Jon Garland? About the same thing that stopped guys like Roy Halladay, Johan Santana and Roy Oswalt from regressing after they tasted success for the first time in the bigs. Garland doesn't have anywhere near the pure stuff of a Jeremy Bonderman, they're not even in the same universe. Garland's 1 great season basically came out of nowhere, Bonderman's success has come gradually with experience and development at the big league level. If Garland were 23 in '05 with a high 90's fastball and 2-3 other plus secondary pitches then his chances of sustaining that success would have been greatly improved. Once again, there isn't a single factor that says Bonderman will not progress into a dominant starter over the next 2 seasons. He has all the makings of an ace, something there aren't many of these days.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 29, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) I'm really just scared Detroit will call him up at some point this season. He'd wreak havoc. Well he did have a 1.286 OPS against the Sox last year, so yes he should be thought of as a possible menace.

The #1 sportsblog on the internet presented their AL Central Predictions today. Deadspin picks the Sox to win the Central, so quit your b****ing, the Sox actually got some love from a media source.

Again, how was last season a career year for Bonderman? It was his best season as a pro mainly because he's 23 but that's certainly not the best season he'll ever have in the bigs unless something goes seriously wrong. A 'career year' implies it was a fluke season (ex. Loaiza, '03) and he will never again reach the level of success he realized in 2006. Bonderman, frankly, scares the hell out of me as a Sox fan. 24 years old this season with just nasty stuff and no real history of arm ailments.