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QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:46 PM) cintron is so overmatched... Cintron is swinging for the fences. He is doing his best Uribe impersonation right now.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) 97? I think you're looking at a hot gun... 95-96 is reasonable, and Jose this year has been around 92-94. I don't think the difference is as huge as you're making it out to be. But again, the burden of proof is on you to show that championship teams' pitchers suffer the next year. If that was true, I'm almost 100% positive it would be more widespread knowledge... The reason the Count has been down in velocity is more to the point he is dropping down more on facing righties. He was more over the top before his DL stint. Freddy and Buerhle both need MRIs. Its not the stress of last year. Something else has happened. Freddy happened before the season started, because they did this whole PR program in ST on how Freddy is a finese pitcher. So everyone knew something was up. Buerhle was great for most of the year. His location got away about a month ago. He leaves everything up. If he got the ball down more he would be fine. But he leaves his mistakes up, and up on 2-0. They get hit hard. Garland was fine phsyically all year long. His problem at the start of the season was not trusting his pitches. The minute he started throwing strikes he started winning.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:35 PM) The thing that really bugs me is that Buehrle was so close to walking off the mound with his second respectable start in a row. I don't even think BMac was warmed up enough yet to come in. Just a pathetic way to lose a game. The long warning track shot previous to the 2 runners getting on was all the warning he should of needed. The fact that he gave up 3 dongs before also should of been a clue.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:31 PM) lol. Has anyone heard a crowd deflate quicker? Pretty much the Angels took the Joe Mays how to own the whitesox approach tonight. Constantly go low and away to our right handed hitters. If you have a slider, even better. Our hitters have problems at times going with the pitch. They have been better about it this year, but when you have Paul Konerko pulling a low and away slider into the hole for a hit. When Paulie is on, he hits that pitch to the fence. When the pull monkey team is out there, we dont get hits, we strike out a ton, and we get worked over. We dont adjust. Even the relievers are going low and away on us.

Hopefully Ozzie will learn when to recognize fatigue in a starting pitcher.

We score a 3rd run, on an oppo dong. Nice homer, too bad we gave up the ship in the 7th. We need 3 more.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:17 PM) If we're creating a hierarchy of blame here, Buehrle first and foremost deserves the number one position. Yes, Guillen should utilizie his bullpen more. Yes, Guillen should know when to pull starters and forget about giving them opportunities to "gain confidence" or earn victories. But who's on the mound? Who has shown himself incapable of pitching over mistakes? Who gave up the balk? What I've seen here these last few pages is Buehrle escaping criticism. He's pitched absolutely dreadful the last month+. Someone can reply, "his struggles are more of an indication to pull him early," but Buehrle's stigma is eating innings. If he's unable to achieve this distinction, what good is he next season? Or this year? I'm not entirely scapegoating Buehrle. Guillen should have shown less patience when the first two runners were aboard. But I'll never place a managerial decision over the pitcher on the mound -- our 8 million dollar pitcher -- not doing his job. Flash when this is happening with one pitcher who struggles and isnt pulled then you can see this is a problem with the pitcher. But when we have had the last 3 losses all due to being down by a run late in a game, and then 2 guys get on, a conference between the manager and the pitcher happens then implosion. If it happens once, sure, but this is 3 times in 5 games When you get into the 7th inning and you are down by a run, you need to play the percentages. My 9 million dollar pitcher has a near 5 ERA. Is he going to give me the best chance to keep this game close or the fresh arm out of the pen.

QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:16 PM) You probably said this last year too. What'd I miss? Just got home from work. We go into the 7th down 3-2, Buerhle puts 2 men on. After a high monster flyout to the wall that we all thought was out. Ozzie comes out of the dugout, but instead of pulling him has a nice chat. Bases get loaded. Buerhle balks someone in, then implodes. Ozzie should of pulled buerhle the minute the warning track shot was hit, then after the first guy got on, then after the second guy got on, then after he loaded the bases, then after he balked the next run in.

QUOTE(soxunited @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:14 PM) the thing is, the bullpen hasn't exactly been lights out either, look what happened yesterday in Toronto. So what is your suggestion, keep rolling with the starters and pray that the first 100 or so odd games were a fluke.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:12 PM) I can't figure out whether I like that or not. Should I be rooting for Detroit or Minny? We will never catch Detroit unless their plane explodes. We do not have the pitching to rattle off a long winning streak right now. And our manager has not clue when to pull them anyways until the damage is done. We have a bunch of 6 inning pitchers. Thats ok if you realize that. But Ozzie still thinks this is 2005.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:10 PM) Scocia knows when to pull pitchers when they're in trouble. Maybe Scocia doesnt know how to do it. He didnt go to the mound to have a chit chat with Kevlim. Kevlim how do you feel, is your arm okay, did you see the ballad of Ricky Bobby. No I am not here to pull you, just wanted to see how you are doing. Back to the dugout.

Does this team and its manager have a clue that we dont have a 15 game lead to blow this year.

Hey Ozzie, look the opposing manager took his starter out before the 7th started. See it can be done.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 08:03 PM) What possible reason could there have been to leave Buehrle out there? He had been hit hard all game and was getting hit hard yet again in the 7th. Two runners on and Ozzie goes out there and doesn't pull Mark. Why? Does he really think Buerhle had a better chance of getting out of the inning that McCarthy at that point? I don't understand his idiocy at all. Ozzie went out and asked him how he felt. Buerhle being a competitor said I am fine I can get the guy out. Ozzie not taking facts into consideration decided to play buddy and let him play in there. Just like he played buddy for Freddy and for the Count yesterday. And he is full of s*** in his quotes on the radio and in the paper about knowing that this is go time and he needs to go to the pen he will. That is an outright lie.

This f****** game is a joke. Our manager is a moron.

Ozzie in 2006 is what happend to Tony Pena after his miracle season. He needs to check his gut and go with making sound baseball decisions. f****** retarded.

Ozzie is retarded.

A balk. Nice Job Team.

Now you havent been getting that call all f****** night long. So keep going out there, maybe the ump will change his mind.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) I'm still wondering why Mark is still pitching in this game. The same reason Count pitched into the 7th yesterday, and why Garcia pitched into the 7th in KC.

Is he going to f****** ask Buerhle how he feels. Is this a joke.

The fuse has been lit on this bomb. The only one that doesnt smell smoke is Ozzie.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 07:50 PM) Another hard hit, Rivera almost got it out. Please, please, take him out Ozzie. This is long enough. Ozzie doesnt know when to pull a starting pitcher. All he knows is x starting pitcher must go 7 innings for 2005 formula to work. However X pitcher usually gives up > 5 runs in that period.

What Joe Crede was thinking at that AB. You know he has been pretty much been going away away away on me. Lightbulb. Maybe I should go to right. Line drive single to right.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 07:42 PM) Oh dear God. Away and another one of our right handed hitters s***s the bed. Clue to our right handed hitters, this is not lob league, right field is not out, I repeat right field is not out.