southsideirish71

Memes are fun. What old turd are you from the past? Jim H.

They thought their offer was better. "If the offer that I'm seeing, or the acceptance of the offer I'm seeing is true, actually our offer had the opportunity for Manny to surpass that," Williams told reporters at the White Sox's Spring Training facility in Glendale, AZ. "But in the end we went after the guy, obviously we didn't get him, and we're disappointed." "People are lost on the fact that on a yearly basis our offer was more than San Diego’s. The average annual value was 31 (million dollars) and change. So it was about years guaranteed. So there is an argument that could be made that our offer was the better of the two. It certainly had more upside for him. All he had to do was basically stay healthy." "Our fans would have been much more disappointed in our inability to keep this next core together," Williams told Van Schouwen. "We would have overextended ourselves had we gone to an uncomfortable level."

Well my math checks in at 300M Guaranteed > 250M Guaranteed. They were 50M dollars off the winning bid. But hey we offered the most money to Machado because of performance based options at the end of his contract. Ask Alonso how his performance based options worked for him.

So what happens in the playoffs? Explain your position players are more valuable than pitchers formula when it comes to the post season.

Ok I will bite. Then why isn't Cole right now being offered a massive contract from the Sox. Why isn't Strasburg seeing the same thing. Why did we offer 50 million dollars less to Machado. I am sure Bill Wirtz wanted to win as well.

Check your math on our idea of a shit load of money and the industry.

God they truly believe I am going to spend money, muaahhahahaha.

Why is it your money?

We will counter with Wade Miley on the bump. Fans on the concourse please remain vigilant for rapid line drives to enter the area from Minny batters.

His best case scenario is the Sox and Twins vying for his services. Divisional opponents going after the same FA always helps to pump up the price tag a bit.

5/118 from the Phils 3.07% income tax = 4.4 mil in taxes=113.6 Million 5/120 from the Sox 4.95% income tax = 5.9 mil in taxes = 114.1 Million Our offers were basically the same sans 500k for the differences in the tax rates. We need to do better or this will be a jump ball every time.

Is it really more in real dollars or performance based options.

The family reason is that his family perferred more money than less.

Well we can get these mass produced then for our future pitching FA follies.

Wait Boras is his client, well cross him off the list.

Do you think we went this deep into this process because we are making a run at those 3. Why wouldn't we just go directly to Cole and Stras and backup the brinks truck and say what Uniform # would you like. This sounds like target 1A for the sox.

Only one team will win the Wheeler sweepstakes. Then the teams that missed out will target the next pitcher.

That kills Dallas Keuchel then as well. So if they swing and miss here it gets ugly real quick on options.

Common sense and basic logic 101.

Wake me when the sox get 1/10th the scouting and development environment that the Astros have. We are also too busy trading away our international money to save 5 million dollars here and there.

That sure will put fear in the Twins as they fight at the bat rack to see who can hit the ball farther.

Think Miley or Porcello or Hamels as the big pitching addition if we don't like the money or the years.

I believe he will take the highest offer. If the Marlins rolled up with 6 years and 140 million the next day he is on TV smiling with his marlins uniform talking about how its his dream to be in Miami. You will get stories about him vacationing there and how he loves the team.

Guys like Wheeler would pitch against the all-star team every week and have a 9 ERA if you rolled up a brinks truck to his house.

There is absolutely zero reason the sox do not come out with one of Cole, Wheeler or Strasburg. There is no excuse for this that is acceptable. I could care less on salary or years at this point. We have two ToR pitchers on the market now who are playoff battle tested. Get one of them. Anything else is a failure at this point. I don't want to see "well we tried or stupid agents and players want money and security". Get it done.