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QUOTE(R.J. @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 11:29 AM) Despite the surplus of starters it'd give us (which is not all that bad guys), El Duque + Young would be something we should do. Barring a career renaissance as a middle reliever, El Duque is not going to be of much use to us at all. And god bless Chris Young, he's a fantastic prospect, but we have outfielders all over the place and 3 spots to play them. Garland + Young is absolutely friggin ridiculous. That's a slap in the face. Unless something else was coming back our way. We have an overload of OF prospects. Maybe the Diamondbacks have something in their system that we are lacking and is a position of strength for them. Lets see the whole thing unfold. Remember the Thome trade. It was supposedly Contreras + Young or Bmac for Thome. How did that change. Names getting thrown out now is conjecture at best.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) So then the Sox obviously dont feel comfortable for some reason with Mac as the 5th starter? Something just isnt right in this rumor..... I wouldnt read that much into that. I would say they feel less comfortable with two pitchers who are at the end of their contracts in 06. They probably feel they can sign one of them and not both. Its about building something that can dominate without becoming the Yanks with their payroll.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 11:19 AM) I just dont understand how it can be El Duque OR Garland. There not exactly in the same tier of pitchers.... It could be for Garland straight up or El Duque + Young. Garland then could be traded to another team for something else.

How much does everyone think that Garland is going to get on the FA market next year. I am thinking a whole lot. Dogs like Burnett are getting 5 year deals. Millwood probably will get a 4 year deal at a rediculous rate. These are pitchers who have had injuries. Now we have Jon Garland who is 1.) young 2.) sinkerballer 3.) Playoff proven. How much is he going to get on the open market. Konerko's heart was with the sox, he stated he wanted to go through the FA process but he wanted to resign here. Garland is a different story. Its cha-ching time. I can see some team giving him a 5 year deal. Now do you really think that the whitesox will match a 5 year deal. Is Garlands heart with this team through and through. I say you get Vasquez for a few years, you keep the core of the team together and you have 5 good pitchers on this team. Remember in the end we are trying to build this like the Braves. You lose parts but not the whole.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 05:26 PM) I can't believe Arnold Schwartzenegger was forced to decide whether someone lives or dies. Just think about that for a second, f***in' ridiculous. Are you Tookie Connor?

Nice to see that the apple doesnt fall to far from the tree. Tookie's Son wanted for rape of a 13 year old Time for the son to take up writing childrens books telling people about the dangers of sexual assault.

If he was a white guy from Connecticut, he would of been part of the mean street possee in the WWE.

Common Pleas Judge Pamela Dembe - who cried openly during the hearing - apologized several times because, "I cannot tell you I am doing the right thing." Disgusting. This poor excuse for a priest, should be de-frocked, ex-communicated, and sent to prison for a long long time. Pedophiles cannot be redeemed. This creature will do these acts again. Sentencing guidelines need to be adhered to. An animal is back out to hurt children again. And the people who support this freak. Remember your priest is a swell guy and all, but he is a criminal. Gacy was a clown. Bundy was a nice young man. Michael Jackson is an entertainer.

Okay I can play along with those who want the death penalty abolished now that we are housing said psychopathic killer on the goverment dime for the next 30-50 years what about the following. Lets play make believe, lets eliminate the death penalty. Woosh, its gone. Now what. Can we eliminate their phone privilieges. It seems that some of the killers in illinois seem to get judges/relatives of law enforcement and specifically vicitims familys personal information and like to make phone calls. And yes they do make phone calls and mess with the people, because some of them get a kick out of torturing the victims families and blame the law enforcement for putting them there. Can we eliminate their mail or screen it for content. I did love the "Execute the Law, Not the people Free John Wayne Gacy" letterhead we received monthly from John when he would send letters to certain law enforcement agencies in cook county. It was touching, but a waste of my time. Can we elminate the sale for profit of "X the serial killers life story". Do they really need full cable TV? I mean I have to pay for it. Do they need to get married? Just because a Jerry Springer show contestant wants to be on "So I married a serial killer" do we need to make it happen. Do they need internet access? Now obviously the criminal(sorry thats judgemental of me(guest of the state)) cannot be in solitare because that is torture. So lets put him back into general popluation. And our guest of the state has nothing to worry about, he cannot be killed by the government. So now in general population how do we protect the other "guests of the state". Oddly I think he may be violent and in some cases horny. Can all states make sure that these people cannot vote. You can murder someone and end their voting right, but you can vote yourself. The answer to these and more most likely from the liberal side is no. Of course not, these are rights. And some people think that murders/rapists/pedophiles can be rehabilitated. That it was something wrong in their upbringing, maybe johnny didnt get the Nintendo 64 and feels bad about it. A few hours in the doctors chair and some meds and maybe Ted Bundy doesnt murder brunettes anymore. And for all those who really believe that I would suggest that you volunteer your neighborhood for a possible location where the rehabilitated move to. Oddly when they release pedophiles they pretty much start right up again. I do find it ironic that the cry of socials worker magazines out for the oppressed poor man who is about to be executed because he had a bad childhood and didnt have the materialistic items that you and I had forget that in most Socialist based governments Mr. Tookie would of been taken out after his trial and shot to death by a firing squad.

Marte couldnt get lefties out last year. So bascially we had a single lefty out of the pen with Cotts, and I would suggest that you check out his splits. Our lefties were better against righties than they were lefties. As Cheat has said time and time again, just because he throws with his left hand doesnt make him a bullpen requirement. Lots of guys that throw the ball with their right hand, also have better splits against lefties. We didnt have a true lefty specialist last year, and lots of teams survive without one. The Angels up until this year have had a predominantly righty bullpen for a while and they have been the best in the business. And as it has been said before the more righty/lefty options out of the pen you give Ozzie, the more you will see Cotts for a batter instead of as a setup guy. Be careful what you ask for, you may find yourselves b****ing out Ozzie for being "stupid" for buring Cotts for a batter because he has the luxury of having a second lefty out of the pen.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 05:43 PM) So Serbia is placed in Group C. Netherlands and Argetina will be tough opponents for sure. Ivory Coast? Chelsea's Didier Drogba I guess doesnt mean too much to you. From BBC.co.uk Our verdict: The best of the African teams and stand a good chance of reaching the last eight. Yeah they should be an easy mark for the Serbs

I am doing the doritos and diet pepsi thing right now. I had an install scheduled for Saturday 11am Adelaide Australia time, which for is 6:30pm Friday night our time. God dam international company. Why cant everyone just be on our time.

QUOTE(Credepopsup @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 05:06 PM) As an Englishman I'm pleased with that draw. They should finish in the top two quite easily. That's a really tough draw for the US. Italy and the Czech Rep are two very, very good teams. The US will need to get something from the 1st game against the Czech Rep, and try to carry that momentum through the rest of the group. Nice draw for DBAHO's boys - Brazil are head and shoulders above the rest, but Craotia and Japan are beatable - 2nd place isn't out of the question for Australia. A quick note - The US games should start sometime between 10am and 3pm CT. The kick off times haven't been announced yet. The Czech Republic/US game should be entertaining. Two teams that playing attacking soccer.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) The US games will all be on TV as will other games. I had a blast following the World Cup last time around and I'm excited for the upcoming cup. The key will be to stay up at odd hours (since there is the time zone difference). It should be a lot easier to watch this time around. This is in Europe this time so pretty much it will be happening early/late afternoon for us. The last one was in Asia and the US games started at like 3 and 4am.

Here is the schedule for Group E Monday, June 12 at Gelsenkirchen: United States vs. Czech Republic at Hanover: Italy vs. Ghana Saturday, June 17 at Kaiserslautern: Italy vs. United States at Cologne: Czech Republic vs. Ghana Thursday, June 22 at Hamburg: Czech Republic vs. Italy at Nuremberg: Ghana vs. United States Group C is being listed as the GOD(Group of Death). Group E is the second hardest with a possible knockout round date with Brazil if you place second.

We have played well against Italy. Just havent gotten the result that we would like. Ghana is a physically talented team that doesnt organize well. The Czechs should provide the hardest challenge in the group. The US just has to make sure they get a good presence in their attacking mid, someone who can distribute the ball to the strikers. In other words hopefully Donvan shows up. That and keep healthy. We did well in the last WC because we played attacking soccer. Put pressure on the opponent and score early.

Group A Germany Poland Equador Costa Rica Group B England Paraguay Sweden Tinidad and Tobago Group C Argentina Ivory Coast Netherlands Serbia and Montenegro Group D Mexico Angola Portugal Iran Group E Italy Ghana Czech Republic United States Group F Brasil Croatia Australia Japan Group G France Switzerland Togo South Korea Group H Spain Tunisia Saudi Arabia Uktraine DBHAO your Aussies get Brazil. lin the group stage. Yikes.

For all those who thought that Marte was going to trott out to the mound as a member of the sox, remember with all the flash of greatness and sucess he had in the past. 1.) He hid an injury earlier in the season, and had to be taken out of a game in Colorado putting the team in a bind. Hiding injuries are on the sox list of no no's. 2.) He pretty much quit on the team during one of the most crucial times of the year. I mean in September with the Indians breathing down our necks. 3.) Ozzie said he couldnt use him at home because the boos were shaking Damaso's confidence. Did we think the boos would go away the minute he walked a few lefties. 4.) Remember the amazing El Duque get out of bases loaded an no one out in Boston was due to Marte walking some people. 5.) He couldnt get lefties out. He was more likely to hit or walk the lefty than get him out. So for all of the greatness that Marte gave us over the years, last year was a bridge burner. I like Mackowiak, and think that these tweaks are what we need. So far this has been a promising off season.

QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 01:05 AM) yes, yes, the famous "Die Hard 3" hypothetical situation... :rolly Yeah we live in a world that terrorist will never ever ever get their hands on those types of weapons, and if they do, they will never ever ever use them in large metropolitan areas. Ask yourself a few years ago, that if these same people were going to hijack planes and have coordinated suicide attacks that would bring down the twin towers. I am sure that the same Die Hard 3 hypothetical comment would come up.

For those who believe there is no justification at all for torture.... So if Johnny Jihadi is part of a terrorist cell and has operational knowlege of a major disaster such as biological weapon/nuclear/chemical that is going to be detonated in a major metropolitan area, there is no reason what so ever to give this guy the five across the eyes, or some other methods to get the information that could save thousands of people. Maybe we can give the family members of those people a letter letting them know that I know their family member died a horrible painful death, but we saved the right of due process of Johnny Jihadi. Sorry at times the humane thing is to save the masses from death and pain over one person. That person lost their rights when they decided to take actions to murder thousands.

This of course is the same Ray King who said that based on a few exhibition games against Japanese AllStars that Iguchi couldnt hit heat. Maybe he can help the Rockies with his expertise in Japanese baseball talent.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) Let's dispell a myth right here: In law enforcement, unless you are talking about a guy with a sniper rifle on a tripod, there is no such thing as shoot-to-wound. It's always shoot to kill - aim for center mass. Officers are not trained to shoot someone in the leg, or any other Hollywood nonsense like that (I am sure some have tried on their own, but it's not what they are trained to do). If the shot happens to not kill them, and they can subdue, then great. But shooting someone is pretty much always considered use of deadly force (again, with a few very unusal circumstances). As a former law enforcement employee, thank you for this clarification. The idea that every police officer is some sort of marksman that can shoot the gun behind the back and shoot the gun out of the suspects hands is consistant only with hollywood. Plus this was most likely close quarters with people around, to draw your weapon in that circumstance the first reaction would be panic and screaming from the people around. The fact that he hit the target in that circumstance tells a lot of their training. That being said, Hopefully it was a clean shoot for the officers sake.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 10:28 PM) did i ever say that I think he did the right thing? No i didn't. I am upset by this news. However that doesn't take away from the fact he was a great teacher and a nice guy. Josh, people who harm children, think of children as sexual objects need to be removed from society. Remember the people who had Gacy at their birthday parties doing his clown bit probably where a bit shocked when they found out his other hobby was stuffing teen age boys in his crawlspace. Sometimes the coolest people have a few screws loose.

If Burroughs can play 3rd and 2nd it could be a low risk move for the sox. He doesnt have a lot of pop, but could hit 2nd when he fills in and we dont exactly need the pop in front of the thumpers. Considering they have Blum and Castillo they dont exactly need Sean. Another nice below the radar trade for KW might be what we need here. 1.) Mueller 2.) Graf/Burroughs

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 06:52 AM) Yeah yeah... He said the same thing last year about AJ & Tadahito..."Absolutely No Interest!" Remember?They were very happy going into the season with Ben Davis(whom they had just resigned) and Willie Harris. Just as some people say: I'll believe it when he is on our team...I'll believe this when he is NOT on our team. Kenny Williams HATES talking about what he is doing when it comes to trades. He will NEVER let on about any potential moves. He will deny and deny until it happens. Now, I'm not saying it WILL happen, but don't believe for one second the White Sox are not talking to Florida. Also one other point to add to this. Look at the smokescreeen going up. We are linked to to a bunch of trades. This is what we saw last year right before KW made a move. You get linked to everyone, then he swoops in and finishes the deal. Last year at soxfest KW was answering questions about Iguchi, who is this player?