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Eloy will be back and he'll play. But the only reason to play him is to hope he goes on a run and hits 10 HRs before the deadline and some team offers something for a partial salary dump. After the trade deadline you can play him or not if you think he'll help you avoid the worst record in baseball history.

Come on that's ancient history you ignored everything else I said. He's already cost controlled for his remaining years for cheap. The only question is his health. There are zero reasons to make him more of a risk for teams wanting him by extending him.

@Y2Jimmy0 seems to think the Sox can get a top 100 pick +. I tend to agree thinking plenty of teams will be making offers. He pitched plenty of innings last year so going into the post season shouldn't be a concern with him.

Moncada is nothing right now except an expensive sunk cost who will be a free agent after the season. Sosa might be our starting 3rd ,SS or 2nd baseman next year if he can manage to play decent defense at one of those positions maybe 2nd base.

DeJong (solo), Vaughn 2 run, Sosa 3 run and K. Lee 2 run provided 8 of the 9 total runs on the longball in support of Fedde who went 6 innings without his best stuff giving up 8 hits ,2 runs, but no walks and 6 K. Brebbia,Wilson and Banks gave up 0 runs in an inning apiece. 9-2 final score.

Winner winner chicken dinner !

My inner Jason Benetti took over using an old pop culture reference. Old Sara Lee commercial ditty.

Nobody does it like Korey Lee !

He's always been streaky. You just hope that one of his streaks is a breakthrough.

I think it's pretty obvious since he came back he's not running that hard on the bases.

Sosa 3 run Jack !!!

Teams don't base their offers on whether or not they think they can extend a guy. Anyone wanting him will base their offers on risk tolerance. He's not likely to help a team in the playoffs this year which is the likely reason their won't be very many offers. Most teams will pass on him and wait to see how the rest of the season plays out . Can he stay healthy ? They'll already be getting a bargain on his salary which is nothing right now and will continue to be during his Arb. years. If Getz were to extend him now and buy out his Arb years and a FA agent year or 2 he gains no leverage in a trade because he'll be making his ARb years more expensive and guaranteeing even more money for a year or 2 extra. How is that attractive to another team when all a team has to do is come to an agreement with him on his Arb salary next year and the year after which is usually a fairly routine process. Teams would want him during the off season because he stayed healthy the rest of this year and he's a dam good pitcher, inexpensive and should be able to pitch even more innings next year. You're acting like getting a cheap very good pitcher for 2 years is some kind of bad thing for any team contending.

No idea what you're talking about ? There's no reason to extend him if they are going trade him. And if you keep him you are going to limit his workload . If just don't know what form that will take. Don't bug his agent about an extension . There's no reason to rush into it. See how healthy he is the rest of the season. You just don't start throwing $70M at a guy who has never pitched like this in his life just because he appears to be a giant unicorn. That's the very definition of buying high. I prefer another team buying high on him.

It's more the hip injury and constant injuries that hurt his value than anything else. He's always been a slow starter to start the season in much the same way Abreu was. Coming back from the injury was essentially a 2nd start to his season. It's a 64 AB sample size . 12 hits 7 of them HRs. His last 5 hits have all been HRs. He must not want to run the bases . He's not running hard to 1st when he hits ground balls. I'd keep an eye on his baseball savant page and see if his sprint speed drops into the low 80s or even into the 70s the next month or more if he's not traded. I think it will just based on how much effort he may not want to give just yet. He needs to become a corner OF. I suggested that at least a year ago if not more but he started the season in the low 90s ( faster than 90+ % of players) in sprint speed but he just can't push himself to that level without getting hurt now. Not being a CF anymore would hurt his value too so I don't expect to see him in RF any time soon but a team who wants him, who already has a good defensive CF with a decent bat, could switch him.

Either has his fielding though also.

You always have to push ahead to build a team especially when you're a terrible team. Where are the other good players going to come from ? Selfishly Id love to keep Crochet but realistically when you're dealing with often injured players like Robert and Crochet you keep waiting and expecting those injuries to keep them off the field just as they have with Moncada, Eloy and Robert. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and strive towards future wins rather than a few moments of titillation watching a few guys doing great with nothing else around them. The Sox aren't going to spend there way back into contention that's for damn sure. Strike for those future wins while the iron is hot.

That's the whole history of the franchise but every so often they rise above it. At least we have some good pitching prospects. Im skeptical that Robert and Crochet will be traded by the deadline so the bats we need may not be coming soon but we'll see what happens .

Cheer up Trev. Thing will turn around. If you have trouble with the curves that life throws at you just be ready for the fat fastball down the middle when life throws you that.

I don't drink really . When I have a drink it's one and done so that was the one .

Its also worth mentioning that he just got done arguing that the Eloy, Moncada and Robert injuries that @WestEddybrought up as a reason for an unexpected worse record for 2024 than it turned out could've been anticipated because they alway get injured. Can't play both sides of the fence regarding injuries and trades.

I woke up and saw I fell asleep with half a big glass of rum and coke so I had to finish it. I'm definitely not going to stay up another 4 hours?

I know it's not Sox related. They aren't worth losing sleep over.Im on my 3rd edit of the post you quoted me on ?

? I was asleep I woke up.

This is the kind of thinking that ends up getting you nothing when u really really need to capitalize on your talent because you don't have much of it. His last year hurt his value. Hold him and he underperforms or gets hit by a line drive and the package gets severely lessened. What you call running scared is at least you're taking advantage of his top availability and his health while he still has it. At least his Cy Youngish type year was still fresh but was closing in on its expiration date because of his 2023. You start off 2024 with under performance and now 2022 really starts looking like an outlier. If you're basing taking less than we should have on personal opinion so be it but I didn't see a lot of criticism of the trade anywhere but here. Look what we thought about the Burnes package. We laughed at Ortiz as a decent piece in a Cease trade. That trade got criticized much more harshly because Burnes had a longer track record of success. Didn't we have a poll here grading the Cease trade ? I mean if you want to support your opinion with some well known analyst criticizing the trade similar to your opinion feel free. I'll listen. Can't remember the grades in the poll but plenty were pissed we weren't getting bats and despite the pitcher of the year award for Thorpe not many were impressed with his stuff until the initial backlash got backlashed back by people actually doing some research into Thorpe, Iritate and Zavala. Hey and Thorpe and Iriarte didn't suck coming into our system. Zavala hasn't been all that but younger equals more volatile but pretty decent upside and yada about development not linear . Treating the Cease trade as running scared I could characterized holding him into the season as reckless. But of course you now have the benefit of seeing the results of his 2024. You put him back on the mound for the 2024 White Sox it could have turned out real bad. Just because he is pitching well for San Diego on the west coast on a much better team does not mean he'd get the same results playing here on a terrible team. Also at the time which once again is hindsight the Sox didn't have the luxury of knowing Crochet would turn into a unicorn, Fedde would be pretty darn good and there would be much rejoicing about our pitching prospects in the minors. At the time of the trade they felt they still needed pitching.

Wow there are a lot of stories out there proposing Robert , Jr to the Phillies.