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Because it's been the only way we got anything back in trades at the deadline and maybe one of these times we get something useful back. ALso all moves were made with getting Manny in mind. Maybe you would recall that before he went to San Diego people wanted to actually compete this year. I always said it was nuts with the starting pitching but people around here liked the bullpen . The vets also protect the young arms from getting thrown into high stress innings early in their careers. Why all of a sudden is the argument now that well we are going to suck so use and abuse the kids or Mr. Reliable Nate Jones ? Assume we got Machado before making statements because that's how the team was being prepared before they lost him.

But maybe not . Will Gio take just 1 year? ANd it's also a very long time to wait to situate your starting staff.

It's just the whiny narrative going around right now for guys we paid less than $10M a yr. on for basically 1 year contracts. Oh no heaven forbid the Sox paid market rate to fill roster spots that needed filling regardless. Everyone expected the Sox to spend $300M but all of a sudden they were supposed to guess the entire market accurately and spend a lot less to surround Machado with crap or injured pitchers making up 3/5 of our starting staff. If you don't what I mean by that last sentence it's everyone telling me Bucholz and Miley and all these other pitchers who pitched less than 100 innings last year could been signed for cheaper than Nova to eat innings. Then throw Rodon into that mix and there's 3/5 of the rotation being injured last year. It boggles my mind that fans here think those guys are innings eaters who had injuries in 2018. You need a history of eating innings . Holy shit how self explanatory does the term innings eater have to be ? All of a sudden everyone's an expert on how to pend Jerry's money and it's always after the fact.

But it's super generous for an unproven guy so would have to be some give on the players side for extra years like into early 30's.

Thats what I was thinking I mean don't the Sox have him on the cheap til 28 or 29 anyway ?

Because most of the time there's nothing preventative that can be done to avoid things like this. Throwing over hand is an un natural arm movement and doing it repeatedly at high speed releasing a weighted spheroid causes stress to shoulders and elbows. The plethora of injuries and TJ surgery's all across baseball should inform your common sense of this.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/white-sox-talk-podcast-white-sox-prospect-alec-hansen-opens-about-his-lost-season No longer a ghost. Good stuff from Chuck

What's up with Perlini lately ? Hat Trick last night almost had a 4th goal with a puck that trickled through the goalie hit the post then laid on the goal line. 6 goals in last 5 games. Didn't realize he was still only 22 and number 12 pick in 2014 draft. Can Kane get to 50 goals in the last 13 games ?

There's got to be a morning after If we can hold on through the night We have a chance to find the sunshine Let's keep on looking for the light Oh, can't you see the morning after? It's waiting right outside the storm Why don't we cross the bridge together And find a place that's safe and warm? It's not too late, we should be giving Only with love can we climb It's not too late, not while we're living Let's put our hands out in time There's got to be a morning after We're moving closer to the shore I know we'll be there by tomorrow And we'll escape the darkness We won't be searching any more.

LOL Gross.

We all know the Machado Mess was a disaster compounded into a catastrophe when Kenny made about as much sense as a preschooler trying to explain how Machado could've made more by "just staying healthy " (up to $350M) but they somehow couldn't afford $300M . I mean that's ridiculous . You can afford $350M but not 300M ????

Balta always had disdain for the front office and that's when I used to agree with him. He saw things clearly. Now he feels bad like the rest of us about the Machado Mess and is taking it out on every minor move the Sox made just to fill the roster for a year. Hate yourself for believing the hype . hell keep hating the front office until they show they can be successful but be reasonable and stop making things up to fit the narrative or acting like you would've done it better if you can't provide proof that you HAD better ideas from the start. It's nauseating.

More than he ever has actually. I read just about everything on here. Saying he just hit a 464 ft HR or AVi will probably have a bounce back year with Tampa Bay or Avi would've been better than Jay and a few more along those lines.

If you ever actually responded to what I was asking of you, to provide some basis for your complaints instead f making up imaginary scenarios I could take you more seriously.

Because you should be smart enough to know better just like Charlie Brown.

Wow not only a soothsayer but a mental health specialists of the masses. We are lucky to have you.

Oh no they spent $20 when they could have spent $15. OMG !! SO you know for sure the cheaper guys would've signed with the Sox for less ? That's some set of crystal balls you got there. No one would punch me in the face, WTF does $44M get you anyway (spread out among how many guys) to make a 100 loss team competitive ? You make less and less sense every day.

Well duh. Thanks for the warning who the fuck doesn't struggle at some point. Hey y'all I warned ya the sun would come out eventually.

It only tells us people have more to gripe about in ST then tell us later on see I told you he would suck in the AL. My goodness this board is in a sour mood. Get over Machado already. I know everyone feels like Charlie Brown when Lucy pulls the football away and good ol' Chuck ends up flat on his back once again. I keep hearing that it's not we lost Machado it's how we lost him because the Sox front office is inept. We all know it's more because you and I feel like a bunch of Charlie Brown's who gets duped year after year.

You warned everyone what was coming ? Eloy would hit poorly in spring training ? I need to know what the warning was.

He's been known to hit some very long HR's even longer than that.

So in other words ,no you can't produce a damn thing. I'm not defending Hahn. I'm calling into question why you are so butt hurt that you would continue to rip the front office a new butthole for signings that just helped the team fill a roster rather than over the thing we can all rip the FO for and that is the botched Machado signing.

Never a good idea for a spouse to respond to the most idiotic Hot Take out there. A millionaire signing an extension out of fear because they're having a baby like he's some kind of poorly paid and in danger of being laid off factory worker or on welfare. Then actually responding to what she read like the Sox would ever even consider that kind of game.

Dunning I understand because at least we have heard about his continuing arm troubles and re examination of it . Have we heard anything about Burdi's or Hansens's health ?

I suppose I should ask again how the off season should ve gone down ? Yes we can all say NOW that Alonso and Jay were unnecessary. You wanted to resign Shields then perhaps over Nova ? Maybe you wanted just kids in the bullpen. Again show me your posts at the beginning of the off season saying how it should go . Hell show me posts where you said signing relievers was a bad idea or even your posts where you thought signing Jay and Alonso was a bad idea regardless of it's impact on Manny, That one should be easy. I know many here thought it was stupid from the beginning but many gave it a chance to work saying it would only be stupid if Machado didn't sign with the Sox. Find your old posts and prove to me that this crying you're doing is nothing but revisionist history as a result of the Manny Debacle. Otherwise all you re whining about is a measly $2.5M and with the exception of Herrera and slim chance for Alonso the rest will be gone after 1 year. Even Herrera might be gone at the trade deadline given the Sox recent history. Maybe the Sox should also stop trying to get productive young pieces too since sign then trade seems to be the only way now to add more young pieces. It's so easy to still complain about the off season when no one takes into consideration that our young BP arms probably shouldn't be just thrown out there in high pressure situations and be told to sink or swim. Of course if that happened I know I could count on you to say they are being rushed.So Sox become damned if they do and damned if they don't. On a side note I have never seen Avi get as much love as he does now in the wake of Jay still being here. Either all those posts saying AVi would be better than Jay ( and I agree) are the result of closet AVi fans coming out of the woodwork for the 1st time or it's more altering history because the past didn't work out.