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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 03:10 PM) :lolhitting Aww... You took out the last line, and that was my favorite part.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 03:50 PM) That's a good guess, but no. I'll tell you when I go home for the day Gitmo detainee? Terrorist, at least. Definitely a terrorist of some type. You hate America and you don't care who knows it! Since I'm a Democrat, that would of course make you my hero...

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 03:15 PM) Oh dont get me wrong. I am just making the argument that if you want to take one out of context (michelle) then you better be willing to take the heat when YOUR words are taken out of context. So, dont go attacking Michelle for what she said and expect people to just ignore McCain's similar comments. Eh... I really don't think they're very similar, but okay.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) no no no. Taken at face value (which was taken WAY out of context) she said she wasn't PROUD of her country until this year. Ask any parent, they may not always be proud of their children, but they still love them. Michelle Obama NEVER said she didn't love her country. hmm... McCain did. Family should never be compared to country. And, you are taking McCain's words "WAY out of context". I suppose you know that, but you think of it as tit for tat. Not my cup of tea, but as you like. I'd also add that I don't think you're understanding why people were upset by Michelle Obama's quote. It wasn't so much that she hadn't always been proud of the US. Some would get angry at that, but not as many. It was the reasoning behind it -- it sounded like, 'I'm proud of the US because Barack's getting votes'. It just sounds so self-serving and presumptuous. Almost like, I'm proud of the US now that it recognizes how wonderful my husband is. I just don't want to hear that sort of thing out of anyone in politics, for anyone else in politics. No individual politician is wonderful enough for that. Mind you, I'm completely in the Obama camp. Just saying.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 02:11 PM) what, he was trying to make a point about how McCain "flip-flopped" his opinion on offshore drilling 8 years ago. And I made a point saying that a few years ago Obama was for the war, and that a few years can change people's views and opinions. To say someone is a flip-flopper or something along those lines because they changed their views over a couse of 5-8 years is ridiculous. People adapt and so do their opinions. What he said was that he was opposed to the idea of a precipitous pullout, not that he "was for the war". He basically said, secure the country to the point that the govt doesn't collapse, then let's get the hell out. Now, I have doubts myself about how realistic Obama is about Iraq, but he hasn't really flipped his position on the war at all. You can easily, consistently oppose the invasion and also oppose a pullout that would cause a brutal civil war, and perhaps result in a Taliban-like regime.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 08:21 AM) You need to check out comedian David Cross' bit about using the word "literally". Aww, come on...that's pretty much right. It's not a phone call, but in the sense that the baby calling out wakes you up, it works. It's not like the NFL announcer saying that some running back is "literally falling apart on the field." (At which I did literally scream at the tv.)

QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 06:35 AM) And what does that make teenage guys? Given the fact that a 24-year old homeless guy was chosen over them, it probably makes them pretty damn frustrated.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 05:44 PM) Out of curiosity I see no mention anywhere really that indicates Rose is a lock to the Bulls. I think the Bulls are going to give a good hard look at Beasley and I wouldn't be at all shocked if he ends up being the guy. Why wouldn't he work out for the Heat if he didn't know the Bulls will take him? Even if he's a lock to go there after the Bulls take Beasley, it doesn't seem worth pissing off your new team just to miss a day of workouts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 05:10 PM) Well no, honestly the Bulls shouldn't be paying that much for a combo guard coming off the bench. But they at least are in a position where they can afford it if their starting 5 is Thabo, Tyrus, Rose, Noah, and Deng...only 1 of those guys is going to be off his rookie contract in the next 2 years and that's Deng. Hinrich and Noc are the 2 guys you'd like to move the most because it's so long before their contracts expire, but the sheer amount of youth makes it possible to hold them. Frankly, I just want to see the kids play together. I don't care who's on the bench, I want to see that lineup (with maybe a change at SG to Gordon, Hughes, whatever). I think that you can develop that in to as good of a lineup as any team in the league has if they're coached right. As good as Garnett-Pierce-Allen? Or Kobe-Gasol-Bynum? Or Paul-West-Tyson? I'm not seeing it. I mean, I think I'm fairly optimistic about the Bulls. I still think huge things are possible for Deng, I think Noah can be a legit center. But you're talking about a starting lineup with still has some serious offensive limitations. I still think that lineup is missing at least one major piece.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) Even if they draft Rose, I could still see the Bulls holding on to Hinrich as a "Tweener" guard who can guard guys bigger than him and play the SG slot alongside rose sometimes. But in that case, they'd have to move Gordon, and maybe Hughes/Thabo also. Whatever, the Bulls needed to trade a SG before they got the #1 pick and they still do. With his contract? If noone wants him, maybe. But if there's interest, I have to think he's the one to go.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 04:56 PM) So Hinrich's on the block I guess now. My guess is the Brewers trade Maurice Williams to move up in the draft possibly, and then try to trade for Hinrich. Any chance the Bulls could get Corey Hart in a deal?

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 03:35 PM) This is of course unless Ichiro demands to be traded or something. That wouldn't suprise me because it could take a while to rebuild that mess that they've gotten themselves into, especially if they lose Bedard (who's a FA after this season IIRC). We'll wait and see what happens anyway, but if I was KW, I'd be at least asking the question. Bedard's a fa after next season, not after this one.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 02:50 PM) I dunno, which one would win that, the 2008 version of Prince Fielder's inside the Park Home run, or the 2007 version of Prince Fielder's inside the park home run? "I am a little quicker than people think." I guess so.

Big news! (Maybe.) From rotoworld:

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 02:33 PM) Ball got stuck under the padding down the right field line. Rios tried to call for a dead ball double, umps didn't give it to him, Fielder kept running. It wasn't like the ball was lost. It was sitting right there and a good call by the umps. Fattest man to ever hit an inside the park homer? Do you think retrosheet keeps tabs on that?

Yahoo, you've got to be f***ing with me. "- P. Fielder hit an inside the park home run to deep right" No. f***ing. Way.

QUOTE (BDavisFutureHOF @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 08:09 AM) Jerry Manuel's a GANGSTA! http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball...p_david_wr.html Jerry Manuel. Gandhi. Ballers.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) Right now, if there was ANY chance that Ichiro was available, I'd move heaven and earth to bring him to the Southside. Unfortunately, we're not exactly loaded with prospects, and the M's would want at least 2 if not more out of Danks / Floyd / Quentin etc. But yes, from all the moves named above by jackie Whitesoxfan1986 and santo, how on earth did Bavasi keep his job for over 5 seasons, with a negative record to boot? Fixed. I only mentioned Vidro. (Although that's probably my absolute favorite.)

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:40 AM) news from mlbtraderumors.com I know this may seem farfetched, but does anyone think that KW can fleece Ichiro from the Mariners, would JR be willing to take on that contract? No and no. Is the idea that Ichiro and Johjima don't like each other, or that they're both disgruntled with the Mariners? (Cuz Johjima especially has zero right to b**** about the team's performance.)

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 11:29 AM) Freddy Garcia trade Did he trade Carlos Guillen to the Tigers? Jojihma's pointless extension Paying $3.5 million for Carl Everett as the full time DH and then cutting him Washburn's deal Batista's deal I think so, on Guillen. Johjima's deal was pretty ridiculous, too. How is noone mentioning Vidro? Trading for a well-paid, light-hitting 2b to be your dh. That's one of my all-time favorite Bavasi memories.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 11:04 AM) I'll fire these 2 games back: Neal Cotts starting in New York with Mark Buehrle ready to go on normal rest because of an off day. Esteban Loaiza going in Minnesota to open the biggest series of the season with a bad illness. The Cotts-Buehrle thing was a bad decision, and it felt like Manuel's Waterloo. But I always admired Manuel, and I don't think he was a bad manager. When the Sox fired him, it seemed he had lost the team, so it was the right move. But he doesn't deserve any ridicule -- save it and dump it on Bevington's pile -- and he could be just fine for the Mets the rest of the way. He's not going to turn things around himself, but he won't get in the way.

Scary rotoworld note:

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 16, 2008 -> 07:37 PM) He has made some terrible decisions though. Overpaying for Beltre and Sexson. Trading Rafael Soriano for Horatio Ramirez. Signing Wilkerson for $3M and then cutting him. He's just done nothing to fix that offense really. My guess is, they blow it up and build around Bedard, Felix and Ichiro. I'd expect them to trade Bedard if they're blowing it up. They only control him through next year and he'll be one of their best chips. Ichiro will stick no matter what, but at his age I don't know that they'd really build around him.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 16, 2008 -> 06:46 PM) No surprise really, he was really the worst GM in the game today; http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mari..._webmari16.html I think it's kinda funny how little reaction this got today. He's made some really poor decisions, but to give him his due, I think he did a good job putting together a pitching staff for this year. Two aces, two league-average guys, and hopefully a serviceable 5th starter in Batista. I really thought that part would be better this year. The offense, not so much. (Though I don't think anyone could've expected the tragedy that was Richie Sexson when they signed him.) A little bad luck, but a lot more bad judgment. So is there any word on what they're gonna do? Blow it up or try to make a run next year?

Lol, when I saw the title, I clicked thinking I would sarcastically request Kenny Lofton be added to the list. Nuts.