jackie hayes

Just noticed that Lincecum drew Oswalt for the second consecutive start. Talk about some rotten luck.

NY Post reporting that the Angels may try to acquire Giambi.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 22, 2007 -> 06:57 AM) It's the other way around. They occasionally get it wrong. Maybe, maybe not. In any case, that's perfectly consistent with my main point (cut out in your quote), that the award tells us nothing. Since you didn't reply to that, I guess you agree.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 21, 2007 -> 10:49 PM) I'm not going to sit here arguing with you over whether or not Gold Gloves mean a damn thing. I think they do and that's it from my end. Uhh...you're already arguing it. You're missing knightni's point. Sure, they might occasionally get it right. But it's the voters following the clippings, not the other way around. They don't tell us anything. Hunter is so good that he gets noticed, even in Minny. Jeter gets noticed just because he's in NY, so his big plays get magnified. The award itself has almost nothing to do with that year's performance. Chavez healthy IS probably better than Crede. But he keeps winning the award however stiff his back makes him in a given year.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 21, 2007 -> 10:38 PM) Except they're voted on by the players and coaches. But what the f*** do they know?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As knightni pointed out, they apparently don't even know who's playing the position. Btw, players don't vote. Managers and coaches only.

QUOTE(knightni @ May 21, 2007 -> 10:10 PM) He's still a mediocre center fielder that doesn't hit for enough power to play left. Well, duh. That's why we have Pods for left.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 21, 2007 -> 07:04 PM) What about Ryan Church? At the beginning of the season, when they hated his guts, maybe. But considering how well he's hit for them (scuffled a bit lately, but still), and the fact that they have NOTHING on that team, I think he'd be pretty expensive. But then, it is Bowden, so it would be worth a shot.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ May 20, 2007 -> 04:49 PM) Was any of this written into Giambi's contract? Link to the original article. Even if the Yankees are given the right to void it based on the language in the contract, and even if his admission is taken to mean he's definitely referring to steroids (he obviously is, but he only said "that stuff"), I don't think he said anything about taking steroids while with the Yankees. Sounds like it'd still be awfully tough to void it. Mostly, they just want out of the $35-40 mil left on the contract.

Nady's a platoon player, great against lhp; rhp, not so much. TB is known to ask for the moon for everyone, but they may part with Jonny Gomes cheap. He's buried on the bench, basically the 5th of, but has a ton of power. Something of a platoon guy (much better against lhp), but a career 300+ obp against rhp. (Bad average, though.) He was injured last year but crushed the ball this spring. Just a thought. I don't know about his defense. He looked average when I saw him play right. Even if he had problems there, I imagine he could handle left without much trouble.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 20, 2007 -> 06:03 PM) Birds. QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 20, 2007 -> 06:04 PM) I was thinking the same thing. Whats with all the seagulls? QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 20, 2007 -> 06:06 PM) They all know Wrigley is the perfect place to take a s***. A happy conclusion to a happy thread about the happy conclusion of this unhappy series.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 20, 2007 -> 06:06 PM) They all know Wrigley is the perfect place to take a s***. Awesome.

Dammit, why did they start this inning...

He wanted his own Derrek Lee.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 20, 2007 -> 01:46 PM) Is any Sox fan going to look back at 06 and 07 and say, gee, I'm glad we saved $10 million of X player but didn't even make the least attempt to fix our ballclub and make a run to get into the playoffs? Nobody said anything about $50 million, that's insane...the fact is, the White Sox made an extra $30 million from the 05 playoffs alone, they're flush in cash from new sponsorships, higher advertising rates for WGN due to the ratings, attendance, parking, concessions, increased food sales. Installing the Scout Seats behind home plate added another...supposedly the Scout Seats (sponsored by United) are generating another $3.5 million in sales. White Sox prices are very high across the board for almost everything...you can't tell me the White Sox operated at a net loss last year with almost 3 million in attendance, can you? If you believe that, you're going off JR's numbers and not Forbes or any independent/unbiased outside source. $50 mil is the value of Matthews's contract, and close to the value of Pierre's contract. So. Do you believe the Sox should operate at a net loss every year? Yes, I know the Sox made some money that last couple years (Forbes numbers, about $20 mil, before taxes, etc). Because of the Series run. That's not something that'll happen every year. You throw gobs of money at mediocre players who are maybe slightly better than what you have now, and you're locked into paying that even if they decline and you don't win. Then you have crappy players being paid gobs of money and no hope in sight for 5 years. And I should want a team operated like the Orioles and the Rangers of a few years back? Juan Pierre is just not the difference between this team and a division front-runner.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 20, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) It'll go down. Once these contracts go off the books, they're going to start replacing them with crap instead of free agents. Just like it has as salaries have exploded over the last decade plus. Tell us what else you see, Nostradamus.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 20, 2007 -> 01:17 PM) I think he means in terms of adding salary on last year or this year, perhaps. Whereas the normal White Sox modus operandi is to shed payroll at mid-season, or for it to be a wash. We have added a few players at mid-season, like Everett or Alomar, but usually they're in their "walk" years. Something more along the lines of, we're going to fix this and go out and spend X amount of money in a long-term contract for Ichiro, Andruw Jones, Torii Hunter, etc. Of course, the move might not work, but anything would be better than sitting back and waiting for the inevitable here. The problem is, we're left to believe in the players we have (we tried this last year, the infamous meeting with KW, Dye/Konerko/Thome) and players told him we didn't need to add anyone to win. Standing pat and doing nothing again this June/July IS making a decision of sorts, and it will have dramatic consequences for this organization's ability to compete down the line if we sit it out as neither a buyer nor seller. Except you aren't asking the Sox to spend X, you're asking them to spend whatever it takes for whoever is out there. Which doesn't seem to be the smartest way to allocate a budget. Of course, maybe there is no budget. Some people tend to think there's $50 mil on a dresser somewhere, but Reinsdorf is just too much of a meanie to give it back. Or multiple $50 millions, I dunno. Advocating the same policy last offseason, I presume you would have outbid for either Pierre or Matthews, right? And then we'd be running away with the division... QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 20, 2007 -> 01:19 PM) Well, that and their constant b****ing about how salaries have gone through the roof! Well, that's much better than looking at the ACTUAL PAYROLL.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 20, 2007 -> 01:12 PM) I fully expect the organization to whine all offseason next offseason over contracts. Buehrle's too expensive! Ichiro's too expensive! We have to settle for Grinders! It means that this is a cheap organization at-heart and will revert to it soon, IMO. Oh, goody. Another The Sox are sooooo cheap! argument backed up by nothing but a hunch.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 20, 2007 -> 12:43 PM) It's a no-brainer. If the team were publicly committed to spending money and had a track record of good drafting, there'd be reason to be optimistic but as it stands we're an old team that relies on the homerun because we can't manufacture runs because most of the team clogs the bases, we don't draft or develop particularly well and there's reason to believe that we won't be spending as much in the future (or will have to settle for Aaron Rowand instead of Andruw Jones, to give an example), then the only reasonable thing to conclude is that there are dark days ahead, especially when the rest of the division is young and studly. What the hell does that mean? We should spend money just to spend it? We should sign players that we don't believe in, just to prove we've got the cash?

That's simply one of the most astonishingly stupid articles the Trib has put out in a while. The team should have had faith in Geoff Blum? Wtf? Geoff Blum? The Trib should actually be embarrassed by that article. It wouldn't be so bad if it were in one of those 'voice of the fans' pieces they used to run. But from their own guy? Yeesh.

QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ May 19, 2007 -> 07:20 PM) I meant the series as a whole. I know we rocked Marquis we last saw him I posted that in the beginning of the gamethread. Our offense was hitting better at that point last year than this year thus far. Hes been fairly consistant for them and made good pitches. Okay, fair enough. In terms of the series as a whole, I didn't expect the Sox to light up the Cubs, not at all. But if Marquis throws shutouts every game between now and the next series, I'll STILL be surprised if we don't tear him a new one. Russ Ortiz and Eric Milton have runs during which they don't look like they suck, too.

QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ May 19, 2007 -> 06:57 PM) Its frustrating I know, but what did we all expect one of the better offensive teams in the league vs the worst. If you were expecting our hitting to light them up your out of your mind. Our starters did their job, not gonna argue that, the bullpen has made mistakes. With few managerial mistakes. Not to mention the Cubs staff have been a surprise this season, their rotation has been consistent. Best we can hope for is to get to Big Z tomorrow, he generally wins against us but we have hit him in the past. Just forget about the series, all I care is that we dont get swept. What?!!!!!!!! It's JASON f***ING MARQUIS. However lucky he's been so far, this guy is not a good pitcher. I will always and everywhere expect any team to light him up like it's Christmas, until he can sustain this s*** for at least ONE season.

I give one minute and a half before this crap is cited as evidence on how 'all you f***tards' think.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ May 19, 2007 -> 06:29 PM) GOD DAMN MACDOUGAL!!!

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ May 19, 2007 -> 04:54 PM) Still Contreras on chisox.com, nothing comes up in a news search. Sure about this? Story's now up on chisox.com. Link-o-rama.

Still Contreras on chisox.com, nothing comes up in a news search. Sure about this?