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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) If the Sox don't spend money elsewhere, and AJ still can't find a job, it would make sense if they got him back cheaply. I would lke to see AJP back in a White sox uniform. I am not sold on Flowers as an everyday catcher. I also don't see this being contingent as a "cheap" signing but maybe a discount. After all how much money is enough money?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 09:41 PM) Must still be hoping for a real 3B to fall into their lap. Joe Crede hasn't said he was interested has he?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 11:45 PM) The reason the STH renewal rate is higher this year is because the Sox were at least 10 games better in terms of playoff position than they were in 2011 when they sent out the renewal notices. I remain skeptical of sales of season ticket packages. There should be improvement when single game tickets go on sale. At what point does the price of game tickets start to get out of reach of the average fan? Cost are aways going higher and thus so does ticket prices so clubs can recover their costs.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 8, 2012 -> 07:01 PM) When my source told me that Hahn thinks very highly of Guillen I was surprised too, but this is a guy who has been around them so he would know. I don't see why this statement is so out of line. Guillen is a good baseball man. I don't think he is coming back but I can see why Hahn might like Ozzie a lot. I like him too. But, Robin has done a great job

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 8, 2012 -> 10:12 PM) You have a different definition of "all the time". Doesn't surprise me. I like reading your stuff and others who say they have sources. Makes it intersting. Keep it up Marty et al

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 9, 2012 -> 10:11 PM) Gammons said a Rangers official told the Astros on Wednesday that they had Upton. So something happened to derail it, at least momentarily. Was it losing out on Greinke or something else? That coluld be true. The Dodgers are becoming the new Yankees for sure. Really strange to see the Yankees pulling back from that Quarter Billion Dollar salary level. They usually buy their way to the top

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 9, 2012 -> 09:46 PM) Mike Adams still available? I think he is and they kicked thiose tires sort of speak. But, if we don't make a trade we have plenty of folks in the pen now or potential candidates

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 8, 2012 -> 04:10 PM) First, Viciedo is no Justin Upton. I applaud Hahn's effort to get creative in his pursuit of Upton, but it would have to be considered something of a longshot if he could turn Viciedo and De Aza into a group of more attractive prospects. We'll see. As for Upton, I think he's the best player on the market and well worth emptying anything we have on the farm (aside from Hawkins) to get. Think about it, when Hawkins is scheduled to be in the big leagues Upton will just be hitting his prime years. 35-40 HR's a year in his prime at the Cell. Your take on Upton is a bold call. I personally think that Viciedo showed some real improvement last year and may be on the verge of being a star. De Aza did fine also but I would be less upset about him being traded. However, no one is untouchable I guess and it all depends on the return

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2012 -> 08:49 PM) When you take the extra $5 million a year into consideration, Keppinger is a better fit. I would have rather seen Youk back on a one year overpay, but if Youk is getting a multi-year deal or $12 million from NYY, I'd rather do what we did, even though I am not thrilled about a 3 year deal. It may not be the last thing we do in this area either - do you think?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 6, 2012 -> 04:34 PM) If this is the guy that's going to get the UTIL spot I'd rather have Lillibridge back. Now you are talkin! I can think of worse utility player options

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 6, 2012 -> 05:32 PM) Granderson and Kubel are available. I think Granderson would hit a ton of homers at the Cell

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 02:07 AM) I always laugh when people use things like "unacceptable". Like they could enforce a consequence for the teams actions... Stomp your feet real hard and scream loudly maybe, but that's it. Let's hope we do something that makes sense and helps the team. I am sure Hahn isn't going to make a trade just to make a trade

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) http://sulia.com/channel/baseball/f/608e44...?source=twitter Phil Rogers Purely in terms of fit, Boston is emerging as a possible source of help for the White Sox. The Red Sox are kicking the tire on free-agent starters but have interest in Gavin Floyd. They are looking to move Jarrod Saltalamacchia, who would be a good piece for the White Sox as a platoon partner for Tyler Flowers. The White Sox would save some money, which would help them fill their needs at third base. Eric Chavez is an interesting name on the free-agent market there. He could share the position with Brent Morel, who gets at least half a mulligan to prove that he can hit in the big leagues. Definitely something to watch. Doesn't make sense. We trade a starting pitcher for a back up catcher? Now Chavez being signed does sound plausible

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 1, 2012 -> 09:05 AM) I really don't want Olivo. That ship has sailed. Letting AJ go is a huge mistake. Sure hope Flowers is ready to catch all but 20 games. I would much rather have AJP back also. But, two years ago they were almost ready to pull that trigger for Olivo. If I had my choice between AJ and Youk for one FA I would take AJP

Thank you Phil Humber for giving your all in Chicago

I thought Miguel Olivo was out there too? He is no AJP, Napoli or even Russell Martin but could be a serviceable back up catcher if someone gives youth a chance as the starting back stop

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 30, 2012 -> 04:09 AM) Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal Source: #WhiteSox exploring addition of starting pitcher, lower-end type at the right price. Would give them flexibility to trade Floyd. Phil Humber? I thought we signed Floyd to solidfy agood rotation? Now they want alower cost guy who can win maybe 4 or 5 games and cost less? Nonsensical

I think we blew like 20 save opportunities last year. Is that correct?

I just don't understand the lack of appreciation for Gordon Beckham. He plays gold glove defense and has improved with the bat. He wants to learn and improve and makes no excuses. He was a #1 pick and we want to just get rid of him? The Sox have made some real strange decisions with their young talent in the past and hopefully they have learned their lesson. I could see Sanchez being added to the roster to play either third or secondbase. If he is the better middle infielder Gordo can move back over to thirdbase. The kid wasn't bad there at all

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 27, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) Sox are joining the new group of teams to have two hitting coaches, even if Baines is only an "assistant" hitting coach. Why was this move made? Anyone have insight? Is it a promotion of sorts considering Harold's hitting history or did he not fit in as a coach?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 27, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) He's right. It usually stays pretty slow except for the Marlins dumping payroll, until the free agents find their spots. The Winter Meetings usually are a dissappointment trades-wise. They always say "this year will be different", and hopefully it will, but usually it's not. Where is Bill Veeck when we need him for splashy moves and news?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 21, 2012 -> 08:22 PM) It's amazing how much discussion we have here for mostly inconsequential moves. This addresses 2013 and nothing beyond that. For the $ I'd go with Wise in 2013 as he can step in and get a few hits here and there and his defense is comparable to Danks'. He'll hardly be out there anyway. Neither player will play much in 2013 anyway and neither will be here in 2014. Exactly. Plus now we see calls to trade Rios beczasue we sign Wise. Wise is a role player. The mistake would be to trade Rios

QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 21, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) The 40 man roster is now at 40. Now that is what I find most interesting. Wise did good enough last season to earn his position with the Sox in '13. I like Danks too and he may stay as well. They are role players after all and not huge impact players

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 13, 2012 -> 08:57 PM) They tried getting Simmons to flip him for Upton. Rios and Q for Olt might do the trick. Why?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 13, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) Moving around with a bad back, like we told you he was 4 years ago Have you been in contact with him to confirm? I think he might be healed by now