Jake

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) if it's in a box, a can, a wrapper, a bag, etc - then you need to carefully look at ingredients and avoid: 1) High fructose corn syrup 2) High amounts of sugar period 3) Avoid most saturated fats (except for avocado, olive oil, coconut oil, nuts, nut oils, nut butters, etc) 5) Avoid partially hydrogenated vegetable oil basically a good simple method is this: 80-90% foods with ONE ingredient and 10-20% whatever else you enjoy, like, whatever. I go for 90/10, but most people aren't as health-nazi-ish like me. If you want to count calories, I can give you more detailed info Comes down to the last point you make IMO. Counting calories can allow you to work in some small amounts of those bugaboo foods, but for a lot of folks that's just way too much effort, stress, whatever. If you don't want to count, and I can understand not wanting to, I'd suggest like Reddy to completely abstain from the types of foods he mentioned. I would advise you to not worry about an occasional cheat, though. This can easily be overdone, but don't miss out on a fun time now and then. Likewise, I don' t want you to feel bad just because you have a bad day with eating -- in the long run, a single day/meal here and there just isn't a big deal.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 03:25 PM) We can win the World Series and Marty can find something negative to say. 11-1? Why did we lose 1? 1 championship? Why not 6 like the Bulls?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 08:08 PM) Apparently lawyers don't like boobs. Must have something to do with the absurd rate of unhappiness among lawyers. When my politics advisor first met me, he spent 20 minutes lecturing me about how I shouldn't go to law school before I told him that was never my plan. I don't know much about it, but if there are no boobs, then I've made the right decision.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 08:04 PM) I was debating with someone at work who didnt particularly care for the movie because he doesn't think they should have been cured of their mental illness, and I replied with "How do you know they were cured?" It was never implied and I like that. Yeah I didn't get that at all. They returned to the whole running thing at the end, which at one point signified their respective peaks of delusion. By no means is it indicated that her illness was cured, she just ran out of the building for no reason (well a reason that doesn't merit that reaction). He was acting more lucid for sure, but I didn't get the feeling that it was supposed to be neat and tidy like your friend suggests.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 07:50 PM) On the note of protein bars, I'll have to pimp my overall favorite brand: Quest. They started up a couple years ago IIRC and they put out a high quality product. The great novelty is they use a special modified sugar that happens to be a prebiotic fiber as part of the sweetening system. There is what looks to be a large amount of fiber in the bars due to this, but it isn't harsh on your system like something like oat fiber would be. There is good research behind this stuff for positive pooping outcomes (seriously, someone measured old people's poop size in these studies). Each bar is 170-210 calories with 5 or fewer net carbs, all with 20g protein from whey protein isolate and milk protein isolate. A lot of bars use the useless hydrolyzed gelatin to boost protein content, but not these ones. They also have an all natural line that swaps out sucralose as sweetener for the benign, natural sugar alcohol erythritol (no stomach upset, almost no caloric value) as well as stevia and lo guan ho for sweetener. They don't have as ideal of a texture as things like clif do, the texture is much more like a more tolerable powerbar. They taste very good though and have lots of flavors. I like cinnamon roll (natural), apple pie, and several others. A lot of my friends are obsessed with coconut cashew, but I've never had it. They've also recently released a line of peanut butter cups (!) and crunch bars. They aren't exactly authentic candy, but they knock it out of the park for what they are. These have a bit more fat than their protein bar counterparts, but still 20g protein at about 240 cals for one crunch bar/two peanut butter cups. The PB cups are really good. questproteinbar.com for more info, I'm sure they make the case better than me. Also, these are now sold at GNC so you can pick one up without too much markup before picking up the entire box. Don't think GNC is carrying the candy line yet, though.

On the note of protein bars, I'll have to pimp my overall favorite brand: Quest. They started up a couple years ago IIRC and they put out a high quality product. The great novelty is they use a special modified sugar that happens to be a prebiotic fiber as part of the sweetening system. There is what looks to be a large amount of fiber in the bars due to this, but it isn't harsh on your system like something like oat fiber would be. There is good research behind this stuff for positive pooping outcomes (seriously, someone measured old people's poop size in these studies). Each bar is 170-210 calories with 5 or fewer net carbs, all with 20g protein from whey protein isolate and milk protein isolate. A lot of bars use the useless hydrolyzed gelatin to boost protein content, but not these ones. They also have an all natural line that swaps out sucralose as sweetener for the benign, natural sugar alcohol erythritol (no stomach upset, almost no caloric value) as well as stevia and lo guan ho for sweetener. They don't have as ideal of a texture as things like clif do, the texture is much more like a more tolerable powerbar. They taste very good though and have lots of flavors. I like cinnamon roll (natural), apple pie, and several others. A lot of my friends are obsessed with coconut cashew, but I've never had it. They've also recently released a line of peanut butter cups (!) and crunch bars. They aren't exactly authentic candy, but they knock it out of the park for what they are. These have a bit more fat than their protein bar counterparts, but still 20g protein at about 240 cals for one crunch bar/two peanut butter cups. The PB cups are really good. questproteinbar.com for more info, I'm sure they make the case better than me.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 05:50 PM) Is there some basic level of "drink this protein shake!" that actually is helpful/required? Yeah, but the timing for a non-endurance athlete is far from essential. If I were you, I'd track my diet for a while and see how much protein I'm getting. If it's low, you can add various amounts via protein supplementation. Likewise, you can just add more chicken breast or whatever your preferred meat is. When you're trying to gain weight, I think a gram of protein per pound of bodyweight is not a bad measure to go by -- but it's probably a little high. Some say you eat, in grams, the poundage that you desire to be. So if you want to weigh 170, you eat 170 grams of protein a day. For a lot of folks, that requires a fairly hefty dietary adjustment. In the ends, calories in vs calories out will be the greatest factor in your bodyweight. Protein consumption will in large part define the composition of that weight -- more protein consumed over time will generally lead to a leaner physique, even if your end weight is the same. This is obviously a slow process, so don't obsess over it. In short, if you don't eat 100 grams of protein a day, definitely look into supplementing protein. If you are up over 200 grams (I highly doubt anyone does this without trying to do it), you are at and probably well beyond the point of maximum benefit. I work in the dietary supplement industry (specifically, a company that targets weight lifters) so let me know if you want any help/don't want to get BS'd into buying a bunch of crap from the guy at GNC. There is a big part of the industry that shorts the stated amount in protein products, so I can at least point you in the direction of reputable companies and retailers.

Steve wisely pointed out bodybuilding.com. Just ignore their supplement advice, they're trying to profit off of you. They think every weight program requires a good 100 bucks of products to make it work, but dont waste your money.

Clif Builder Bar Choco Mint is delicious

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 11:27 AM) Not banned, but via pushing site owner buttons he got time off. where can I find said buttons?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 21, 2013 -> 09:52 AM) suck on these!

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 20, 2013 -> 10:59 PM) Great replacement for Myers, at like maybe a third of the cost. That's a good way to look at it.

Saw Silver Linings Playbook tonight, it was excellent. Interesting premise, but the genius was just in the execution. Also, Jennifer Lawrence is one hot mama.

Should we make a healthy eating thread? Might attract some of the people that don't feel like looking at the workout thread and could keep this one off-topic. I know our ST's biggest loser forum or whatever we called it didn't last, but I figured I'd throw it out there.

I'd say that there are probably more parents that over-coddle, under-critique, whatever you want to call it than ever before. But it's not as if being critical of everything your kid does is necessarily the best way to do it, either. Most people respond best when they are given a mixture of criticism and praise. Let them know what they're doing wrong and let them know what they're not. It's pretty simple, it's about moderation. BTW, I came from the "everyone gets trophies" generation, and everyone knew that didn't mean s***. We'd keep the trophies because shiny things are cool, but we wanted to win. When I was 6 or 7 years old and we played in a basketball league that didn't keep score. While there are some benefits in trying to keep things from getting over-competitive (is this for the parents or the kids, by the way?) I know that all we'd do after the game is argue about who would have won if the score was kept and compare our self-kept statistics, etc. You can't make people noncompetitive even if you try -- though I'd say making them feel like losers too much rather than winners too much is more likely to have a negative effect.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) I posted this one a couple weeks ago, here's my version; environmental cleanup of lead. I saw that, very interesting stuff. Here's Steven Levitt's written version, though it's rather dense: Legalized abortion and crime rates

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) I can't speak to road rage and serial killings in particular, but compared to 20 years ago, overall violence is way, way, way down. Violent crimes per 100000 people was at 750 in the early 1990's, it's dropped below 450 in the most recent years. That's nearly a decrease in violent crime by a factor of 2, nationwide, over the last 20 years. About the only type of crime that isn't screaming downwards is gun crime. There's a segment in the documentary (which plays more like a serious of short documentaries) Freakonomics where they think the recent drop in violence is in large part explained by Roe v Wade.

QUOTE (MAX @ Jan 19, 2013 -> 08:37 PM) I don't see the downside in getting rid of instigators who make a constant effort to "skirt the rules". Slippery slope!

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 19, 2013 -> 07:27 PM) I'd prefer the loser take his regular turn at Charlotte rather than be long man. I agree with that. I expect them to delay Danks' return long enough that Q and Santiago get a few starts to duke it out for the MLB spot.

I've gotten to study German cinema and it is surprising that almost 30 years passed before they're cultural products started to deal with the Nazi past. There's a reason: everyone was worthy of blame. A good movie, available on Netflix, called The Nasty Girl does an awesome job of dealing with this. Subtitled obviously, but a really great film that sheds some light on this stuff. Based on a true story too -- the real woman it is based on is not nearly as charming, I must tell you

Illinois is like a bad girlfriend. One day, you're riding high, they're giving you even more than you could have asked for. Next thing you know, they're getting f***ed by some lowlife.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 19, 2013 -> 06:48 PM) Lindstrom is good for 50 innings, so he and Crain should split the RH set up duties. The pen could use a long man to protect against usage because Danks, Quintana, and Sale all should be pulled quickly when it's apparent that they don't have it. lol you can't even say something nice without saying something negative!

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 19, 2013 -> 05:08 PM) I get that people who are part of the majority do not want to believe that it was just a regular guy who would become the one to flip the switch for the gas chambers, but that is the truth. Even Schindler, who was one of the best towards the Jews, only did it for money to start. He was using Jews from forced labor. It was only after he saw his "workers being murdered" that he got upset because he was losing a valuable commodity. Most humans accept speciesism. Whether its okay to kill a fly, a mouse, a chicken, whatever. Most people have a point where they think "its okay to kill that" or "its okay to test on that" or "its okay to work it to death." In Nazi Germany it became acceptable that Jews were less than Human. So normal human rights did not apply. They did not think they were doing anything wrong. If Germany would have won, would all of those poor unfortunate Germans have freed the Jews? Would they have stopped killing Jews? No. They wanted the Jews eradicated. It wasnt just Hitler or a handful of people. Germany wasn't the only place that was anti-Semitic. Opinion polls, even after the discovery of concentration camps in post-war Germany, in the USA people were rather strongly against allowing Jews to immigrate into the USA, refugees or otherwise. During the war, before the full breadth of extermination came to light, foreign Jewish immigrants were indisputably an unwelcome proposition. Would Americans have been pro-Holocaust? No, but unfortunately there was a pervasive atmosphere worldwide that allowed this sort of thing to be ignored. While I wouldn't want to say that bad government and genocide can't happen again in the Western world, it seems far less likely since it happened on such a large, public scale.

Good pickup at $3M or below per

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jan 19, 2013 -> 04:16 PM) Unfortunately though it's the tallest midget problem. He was the best of an awful group. Hopefully on the right side, he can be an average tackle. Right, he received a 0 rating from them. That means he avoided negatively impacting the offense. Though not every position's numbering works out this way, 0 put him right in the middle of the pack among tackles.