Jake

QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 07:02 PM) I tend to think that the Sox will be conservative with their best assets but that is mostly based on my own personal wishes and not in any way on reality. I'm sure it depends on how well he does in the AFL and whether he gets traded before the start of the season. I doubt we trade him unless it is for an infielder. He is a relatively close and valuable player given his position. We have two potential positions of need on the MLB roster with no players ahead of him in the system and he plays both of those positions. Unless the FO is thoroughly convinced that he can't be good, then I don't see us trading him.

QUOTE (BlackBetsy @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 11:19 PM) This White Sox team was 21 games over .500 against the Twins, Mariners and Indians (33-12). They were 13 under .500 against the rest of the American League (43-56). I think the season was a mirage - they looked good when playing crappy teams (except the Royals and Red Sox) and were less than mediocre against the rest of the league (except the Yankees and Rangers for some reason). Sure, if they split with the Royals they are in a one game playoff with the Tigers...but that just means you lose to Verlander one more time. I think your post goes to show you that breaking it down by individual team W-L isn't an accurate way to look at it. Can't beat good teams except these two good teams and only beat bad teams except these two really bad teams. Maybe there just isn't a pattern... I could easily just say that if you flipped the records against Detroit and Kansas City that we look awesome.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 10:49 PM) Normally that's true. But Hawk can't work with somebody on a steady basis. He gets threatened. So he has to have revolving color men. Remember how damn happy he was to get Wimpy back? He'd be the same way I bet if DJ came back for a series. Get Hawk the scenario I presented and it'd be awesome. Big Hurt for 20 games?? Wow. Ozzie for 20? Amazing. Wimpy and/or DJ or Huff. Bring it on. I think he really liked DJ and wanted to continue to work with. I don't know about what happened with Wimpy, but you can tell they love each other nowadays. Stone just happens to be as big of an asshole as Hawk, but he doesn't love the White Sox like Hawk does. Easy to pick who stays.

Dan Johnson isn't a good baseball player and he's only had about a month or two of appearing to be a worthwhile bench player. Let's not get crazy now. I'd be happy with finding a way to keep him on our bench next year and that's about it. If PK or Dunn get hurt next year, I'm happy to give him a shot.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 11:00 PM) No, no, and no. The only way any of this happens is if we exercise Peavy's option (which we should do at at a +14 million cost). QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 11:07 PM) Just so we get this clear Jake's option is $22M. Buyout is $4M.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 09:38 PM) Wright. I could see them picking up the $16M option and try to trade him as a part of rebuilding process. Looks like Headley might be part of this already rebuilding Padres team. Agree. The fact they extended Q made me think they want to keep some good pieces around.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) He went to Harvard, Im pretty sure that when they debate you dont have one side going "Thats not my position" and "No one can comment on my position because its never been done before." He needs to watch Ted Kenendy, because thats how you beat a Romney. Simple nonsense like "Oh Governor Romney when did you become a Democrat" will cause him to just completely implode. My guess is Obama thought thats to low brow. Well see if he changes his stripes now. That Ted Kennedy debate is funny because so much of it is Ted Kennedy bullying the s*** out of Romney and taking advantage of the crowd being on his side. There were times, even while I dislike Romney, that I felt like Kennedy was just blowing smoke and Romney wasn't given a chance to say more or clarify his position, which was already clear to me.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 08:54 PM) So, I think the two big spots we can expect the Sox to fill are RHP and 3B, and I kind of expect it to be a free agency splash. For pitcher, I think Peavy at 12M/2yr would work (essentially $14M due to his buyout). I'd also not be shocked to see Kenny continue his former Royal love and making a play for Greinke (despite his hating US Cellular). Then for 3B, I see them going hard for Wright. I couldn't speculate the price, but I just see it happening. How do we know Wright will be available?

I doubt the plan was to be received as a loser. I didn't actually see the debate, but from the parts I've seen, it seemed like something was up with BO. It was as if he had missed out on sleep or something...probably just part of being a President instead of just some random rich guy politicking around.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) Hawk should be given a nice severance package, and they should get a new PBP guy in there....and not a former player. Isn't it possible that Hawk is part of the problem with attendance? He turns so many people off that they have a hard time attracting new fans. And he also is so down when the team loses, it makes the fans they have so negative, they don't want to watch them in person. I know the attendance issue is very complex, and it's not the main reason why the Sox don't draw. But I don't think Hawk helps the situation...I think he hurts the team in a lot of ways. That makes no sense. Every marginally interested baseball fan I've ever known loves Hawk. He makes a boring sport interesting. Do you think a casual fan would rather have someone like literally every other broadcast (you never hear a word they say) or someone that actually calls for your attention, as if it was something more than a silly, boring game on TV? The only people he pushes away are people that are already firmly attached to another team or dislike baseball too much in general. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) Hawk attracts more fans if anything. ^^ QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 05:12 PM) That's the same thing people say about Dick Vitale. Vitale has done great things for college basketball, but people outgrow him. That doesn't mean he's still not bringing people into the game. I don't understand how so many Sox fans can hate Hawk Harrelson. He IS the White Sox as far as I'm concerned. Vitale isn't a bad comparison. Vitale says blatantly biased things sometimes (odd for national TV, but what the hell) but he's extremely entertaining -- he helps replicate the intensity of the stadium with his own intensity. This is what Hawk does too.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) They may be two different people, but they're both businessmen that look at the bottom line much in the same regard. By and large, Bain was known was a job shipper/outsourcer...which is exactly what GE has become in recent years under Immelt's lead, and he's just one of the many Obama appointed to advise him who are HUGE on outsourcing jobs, because it helps their bottom lines despite the fact it kills American jobs. There are plenty of successful businessmen he could have appointed to advise him that DON'T outsource, but he didn't do that...he played politics and doled out favors to what will result in huge campaign contributions. If he doesn't think Romney was a very sound businessman in what he did with Bain regarding American jobs, then he shouldn't be taking advice from people who do business exactly like Romney does when better alternatives exist and could have just as easily been appointed to said advisory board. If you want to stop outsourcing, you talk to those that outsource. How else do you find out what kinds of things would stop them from doing so? It's kind of simple. If all they say is "billions in tax cuts," well you don't have to listen. This is the nice thing about having an advisory board. These assholes AREN'T the President.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) Edit: To make it a finer point -- it's not that he's dealing with unseemly people as part of politics, this is a given -- in this case, it's that he says Romney has no idea how to fix the economy, yet he appoints and takes advice from people exactly like Romney on how to do the same thing. I, for one, find that VERY interesting, even if you don't. Well that's different. I don't think BO is trying to say that every big businessman is like Mitt Romney, necessarily. This is more "Mitt Romney's ideas, as stated by himself, are bad and I believe these bad ideas originate in his business background." This means GE may have different ideas (since this person is from GE and is in fact a human being) or perhaps that incorporating certain nuances that Barack, as a non-businessman, may not have known about can still be useful even if the general plan on the whole sucks. But it is important to make sure we consider Mitt Romney and any particular corporation head as two different people.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) We disagree on this entirely. I think it shows Obama is a politician just like the rest of them...say one thing, but do another through your actions. Do as I say, not as I do. That's exactly what this highlights. If you [Obama] dislike the way Romney ran Bain, don't f***ing appoint people just like him to ADVISE YOU ON HOW TO CREATE JOBS. How you don't find that to be an interesting discussion is beyond my understanding. I would be fine with Mitt Romney offering his thoughts via placement on a non-legislative body. If he offered advice that was stupid and self-serving, I could ignore it. If he (or GE) actually offered insight, however, it would be one of a kind and immensely useful since no one else will know the inner workings of massive corporations better. I don't want these people as my President unless they can at least claim an agenda that doesn't seem self-serving and out of touch. I can't believe you don't understand what I'm saying. It's an unavoidable fact that you will have to consult these people to try to find a way to get them to do the things you want them to do. "I will try to create jobs but not include those with the greatest means to create jobs in the discussion" sounds like a great plan. Taking advice =/= giving in. This is just like the "flip flop" discussion. You can have the blinders on and never change anything (not including large corporations in the information gathering process for job creation) or you can be receptive to outside opinions in case your plans are somehow inadequate (put large corporations on advisory groups). Whether the President's position changes will depend on how useful the input from GE is.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) It doesn't matter if they "have any real legal power or not", the fact is, he put people EXACTLY like Romney in charge of his jobs creation advisory board. You keep ignoring that, because it fits your agenda, but it's exactly what Obama did. I'm not ignoring it but it's a profoundly uninteresting point that you're trying to make. Who else are you going to consult for information on job creation if not potential "job creators"? I have to think, even as a sort of fan of Obama, that you could find far more unsettling examples of his dealing with unseemly people than this one that you keep bringing up. This is part of politics. The people that know most about the things you don't like are the people that do them -- the best regulators are the best of the industry. In some cases, you have to evaluate if someone is being consulted/given power to further their own or former interests or if they are in fact just fabulously qualified due to their previous experience. QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) Its not even that, its that Mitt last night basically just announced he had a new economic plan and made it up on the fly. That is just scary. Obama is far more calculated in his front running, he probably mulls it over for months before doing anything. I have no problem with Mitt saying that after years of watching Mass that he may have been wrong. That is reasonable and can be defended. I just didnt like the "surprise" aspect of his debate tactic. This.

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Oct 3, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) Anyone have experience with the steroid Dianabol? Theres a personal trainer at xsport that tells me he has a supplier. I'd like to get a Clay Matthews body the way that Clay Matthews did it. If you're seriously considering it, I can talk you through some of the very basic things and how to at least evaluate a reliable source of information. I'm not afraid to say in the open though that you should not even consider it unless you're a very experienced lifter and are having trouble maintaining progress. Also, steroids can be used with no lasting side effects if used correctly. Most folks have a very hard time sticking to a logical plan once they start though, even if they had a supplier that was nice enough to point them in the direction of someone that knows what they're doing.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 01:57 PM) Assuming that Peavy can be re-signed, the rotation has Sale, Peavy, Danks, and Quintana or Santiago. Then your options for 5th starter are Floyd @ $9M, Myers @ $10, or you can go with both Quintana and Santiago. That's a hell of an assumption but I'd like a rotation of Sale, Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Quintana

I would have no problems making David Wright our highest paid player. I don't think we could give them enough years though. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) You are welcome Jake. Thanks!

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 09:52 AM) This is so full of crap, it's not even funny. I love how you point to Romney "loving to fire poor people while at Bain", but you have no problem whatsoever with Obama appointing people like Jeffrey Immelt (CEO of GE) to his "US jobs creation council", all the while GE (under the watchful eye of Immelt) is outsourcing jobs to foreign countries for cheap labor and firing "poor people" the same exact f***ing way Bain Capital did. Obama said he'd create 50 billion trillion new jobs, too...and did little to explain how that would happen other than "we're going to spend a bunch of money re-building roads and bridges that we seem to be re-building every f***ing year anyway". Both of them are full of s***...it's just funny how you think only one of them is. You keep saying that and ignoring the fact that that is an advisory board that has no real legal power. I would want to know, from the outsourcer, what things might cause outsourcers to stop outsourcing. Now say that fives time fast. It's not the same as having a President who had some questionable business practices. I really wouldn't care how much money the guy made if he wasn't so arrogant about it -- the 47% business, etc. is just a confirmation of what makes so many people not trust rich businessmen.

Jennings has been absolutely amazing. I am shocked he got recognition, though.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 3, 2012 -> 04:13 PM) Wow! Hamilton drops routine fly,,A's have scored 6 to take 7-5 lead in 4th. he's had his head up his ass

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 3, 2012 -> 12:07 PM) I'm doing hot yoga tonight (and weekly moving forward) to prep my old (29 year old) body for the coming basketball season. Anyone have experience with this? I'm looking forward to the experience. I don't know what it is, but you should probably post pics

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 1, 2012 -> 12:34 PM) Jeesh...I feel bad for your girlfriend... QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 1, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) "This is our sex corner" QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 1, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) The coitus corner! okay...maybe there is ONE other thing I do in my bed....

You want collapse? Wait until Texas loses to Oakland today -- losing a 13 game lead over Oakland would be a "collapse." 2-7 down the stretch if they lose today. If they don't win their wild card game, oh lawd

We can lose Beckham, but I never want to lose STRONG ARM OF BECKHAMMM