Jake

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 11:58 AM) It happens a lot with the Sox. We have seen discounts given quite a bit. Our Organization takes care of players both during and after their career. And with the injury and other stuff with Peavy I think he is a kind of guy that wants to make up for that. Anyways here's some quotes from an article after the allstar game, from the sun times. “I can tell you this: I love Chicago, I love what we have as far as a team, from [board chairman] Jerry [Reinsdorf], to [general manager] Kenny [Williams], to the staff they brought in, and I can tell you this, this is as good a staff as I’ve ever been a part of. I can tell you this, I can’t see any more of an appealing place to play than Chicago. My comfort level with them knowing my body, my routine that I have, a routine we’ve gotten down, we understand, what we need to do to keep healthy, stay strong, so I can tell you that. I want to be here, but we’ll let the chips fall when they may when that time comes. “I do love Chicago, and when the time comes and we do have that conversation – if we ever have it – with Kenny and with the rest of the staff, I will let them know that I want to stay if I can stay. I would love to end my career right here [in Chicago]. We’ll see.’’ Here's the link pretty good read: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/13704613-419/story.html Bringing him back without breaking the bank would be huge. We'll see if he puts his money where his mouth and I won't blame him if he doesn't. And as I said in another thread, we won't be crying poor in the offseason if we make some sort of playoff run.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 10:37 AM) Brewers are interested in DeAza. Fuuu too much

All I can say is if we win, a bunch of money will start becoming available to keep everyone around.

1. The front office turned us from 8 seed to back to back 1 seed in one offseason, an offseason we "lost" by the way. We can debate the meaning of the 1 seed, but we were a title contender every second that Derrick Rose's ACL was intact. 2. JR remembers 1998-whenever the end of that run was and is not going to encourage the deconstruction of yet another winning team. He'd rather you pine for superstar number 2 while you have several star players on the roster than having to pretend that players like Marcus Fizer, Ron Artest, and an old Jalen Rose are franchise cornerstone players. I agree with that sentiment, too. 3. What good does spending into the luxury tax bring? More bench mob? I'm sorry but I agree with the FO that being unable to sign free agents and having inflated contracts with your bench players f***ing sucks. I believe the FO will spend into the tax when it comes to keeping key players around -- heck, what would you say if we paid the tax to keep Boozer on the roster? That's the type of s*** these other teams do and we'll do it too if necessary to stay competitive. I'm sick of smart posters losing their mind over spending as if the cap doesn't keep us from signing big FAs. Jerry opening the wallet right now would only keep our overrated bench players around. The instant we have players worth spending into the tax for, we'll do it. All those players are under contract now. Just keep the Ben Gordon contract situation in mind...was that cheap or savvy? You tell me. 4. Speaking of the bench and young players, let's talk about the youth or supposed lack thereof on the bench. CJ Watson and JL3 turned into Hinrich, Teague, and maybe Beverley. That position got younger. The 2 guard position lost Brewer and Korver, gained Belinelli and Butler. Replaced two players at their peak with two young guys with room to grow. Butler is also Deng's reserve, which amounts to about 5 minutes. Taj remains Taj. Omer becomes Nazr Mohammed, final we get older. It just isn't that easy to find a good, cheap reserve 5 and I think Nazr makes sense in that role instead of some NDFA that may cost us when Noah inevitably gets hurt. Scalabrine becomes Vlad Rad, who isn't much younger but at least has a useful skill. The last big man is likely to be Malcolm Thomas who must be you guys' dream come true as an NDFA. Let's just let it all play out and relax. This team isn't that bad, even minus Derrick Rose. We get in the habit of devaluing our players and staff. I'd love for us to make a splash but we didn't. I honestly can't blame a franchise for not going after Dwight Howard either, especially when he says he doesn't like you. Let that circus go elsewhere.

Excited for T Flow to get a little more time, he's looked better the last couple games. Maybe the thought that he'll get some more at bats reinvigorated him.

Not 2012, but a short film by Spike Jonze that I really enjoyed. A bit outside the box

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 10:33 AM) Do you think that pecking order is based on who the organization projects to be a more successful pitcher? Or are there more financial/political type considerations involved? They COULD and sometimes should, but I don't see much of a motive with Septimo vs Veal deal here. I think they just have an opinion of who is better or could be better and are going to let that play out. They very likely made some sort of promise to Leyson that they wish to keep.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 09:02 AM) The organization has a pecking order for its pitchers, and Septimo is at the head of the pack. I'm not too upset...despite two bad outings from Leyson, if they really believed that he is going to stick as an MLB reliever it is too soon to give up on him. We can see Veal again by the time Leyson could fail beyond a reasonable doubt.

There is no bad, just the absence of good. But is that bad? A philosophical argument can now become a semantic one - go.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 08:07 PM) Sox will win the AL Central.

Joxer_Daly's idioms > all "rougher than a badger's arse"

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 07:33 PM) The obligatory "was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor ? " yeah, where's this?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 06:36 PM) I've been drinking it basically just as an every day beverage. I seem to have difficulty with staying hydrated enough when I am home (I drink lots of water at work for some reason...maybe I should just pony up and get a water cooler . I don't drink soda or really much juice even, but don't really care for the taste of my tap water. Glad to hear it isn't going to kill me (at least to your knowledge). I hear you, I have to get pretty desperate to rally around some tap water. I try to have a few no-cal beverage choices around so that I will actually get enough fluids in me. Propel is one I like for the taste and mouth-feel that is waterish.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:44 PM) Hey Jake...curious as to what your thoughts may be on Propel Zero? I think it tastes good Doesn't have anything bad for you in it, but I also wouldn't go in expecting any performance benefits. You'll be hydrated a little better but it is not an electrolyte drink -- as a calorie free beverage it should be an excellent way to feel like you're getting something tastier than water without the "guilt" of drinking a sugary beverage. It makes sense as a non-activity compliment to the Gatorade line if one was to live the company's ideal of consuming their products in every applicable setting. There are small amounts of vitamins, but the forms of those are not stated and the amounts aren't particularly high anyways. Basically, if this drink is making or breaking your daily vitamin intake there is a problem This is akin to drinking a diet, non-caffeinated soda without the carbonation that can turn some people off. So? Drink as your heart desires and enjoy the yumminess.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:29 PM) He averaged 2 more mpg, but with both Noah and Boozer actually being healthy for the full season, it seems like a stretch to say that he got longer stretches/more important stretches than the year beforehand. The playoff run in particular leaves a bad taste in one's mouth

I felt like he seemed to regress because we got to see him out on the floor for longer stretches several more times than we were used to, in more important times than we used to.

This team will go the way of Paul Konerko.

Carbohydrates undoubtedly improve workouts. Electrolytes are excellent and while you may not always need them, there's really no such thing as too much. B vitamins have very poor oral bioavailability (ever heard of B12 injections?) but almost nobody that eats meat has a deficiency. I don't know that folks should be drinking Gatorade just casually throughout the day and simple sugars aren't necessarily the best choice in the pre/intra workout application...but they taste better and they work. My personal preference is to drink as few calories as possible but slamming a little packet of Gatorade Prime before a long basketball game doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

This bandwagon is getting a lot less crowded

I felt like we overrated Omer. Omer is no freak athlete, he's a somewhat mobile 7 footer that was good at using up his 6 fouls. That is useful, but he's no God. A small downgrade defensively here doesn't make a big difference and Nazr is such a more complete player that you'd be much more comfortable having him play larger minutes in case of an injury to Noah.

I put "don't have a strong opinion either way." We can speculate either direction, but facts are hazy. He probably did something that he shouldn't have, but it also probably wasn't cut and dry. We just can't know so I'm not going to try to know. I assume KW got a feel for how the guy is perceived among the other players. Hopefully we can win and just forget the guy

I like Leyson, but I'm leaning Veal. Ideally they'll get Veal an inning tomorrow to see if that curveball was real life or just fantasy

I agree that especially in this situation that a bunch of people standing to return fire could have made s*** VERY crazy. I would have wanted a gun on me, though. I don't know if I would have fired it right away for these reasons (riot helmet, kevlar vest, smoke in the air, darkness) but if I could get that shot in the neck/mouth region I would have taken it, but it would have required extreme close range. There's really not a lot you can do to prevent things like this. It wouldn't make me mad if you start making places more secure, etc. but the main thing you can do is try to keep people happy, connected to society, etc. but it will always be someone's right to disconnect. People that have some kind of mental problem will always choose to disconnect to some extent and bad things will happen, unfortunately. I don't know if him believing that there would be concealed weapons among the patrons would have deterred him because he was never going to think logically. It falls in the category of something like a natural disaster. You can take cover, check the weather channel, etc. but you might just be unlucky and get hit. That is the human existence.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 05:44 PM) I guess because he is now a White Sox you want to ignore the witnesses. There was more than one, and it wasn't like they were trying to take a professional athlete down, they had no idea who he was. If people now want to look the other way with this idiot because he's now on your favorite team, I suggest you quit watching sports for a while. Its affecting your judgement. And one question, if this was just an isolated incident where really nothing happened, why have they been going to counseling for years over domestic violence? Guys that hit women are losers. Brett Myers is a loser. I'm not about to get a beer with the guy, but the facts are very blurry in that particular situation and it is not clear to me that he is simply a "wife beater." Until someone can make that more obvious I'm going to assume that he's a f***ed up guy that is trying to get better. He made it sound in his statement like they both may have had a drinking problem. I hope a reporter asks him and/or KW about it because I'm interested in what is said. Chicago fans are right to be skeptical

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 21, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) OJ wasn't convicted of murder either. The Meyers case went exactly as most domestic abuse cases go. There is no excuse to hit your wife. I've had police try to convince my girlfriend that I hit her for no particular reason before so the "she was swollen at the time but didn't bruise" thing didn't fly with me. The description they gave of both being too drunk makes me wonder if it is as clean-cut as people would like it to see. I've seen a woman drunkenly batter a man physically and verbally and to think he won't retaliate in kind when super drunk is not as unreasonable as simple "wife-beater." But then again, both of us are speculating, aren't we? You're just eager to to pass judgment when the guy probably just got too rough while drunkenly arguing with his girl. He almost certainly made a bad mistake, but I can't be sure that it's as bad or simple as described and I don't think it is fair to convict the non-convicted in this case.