Jake

I can't take anymore. What in the fish is PFB?

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 03:21 PM) No Vazquez is a slider We all know linking to other sites is wrong Greg.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 03:19 PM) It's a debate between Mr. Optimism and Mr. Pessimism, and I'm sticking up for Ozzie. At least the only game we lose is the game Javy pitches, I really feel good about the rest of the starters.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 03:15 PM) I could just imagine the outrage on here if he left in Thornton, and he blew the game. Thornton had pitched in all 3 games this wknd, and it doesn't matter how many innings he threw. For relievers, they typically end up throwing more pitches warming up in the bullpen than they do on the mound. I guarantee Jenks through a significantly larger amount of pitches than Thornton, not to mention Thornton has kicked their asses. I was saying how dumb it was to put Jenks in before we even brought him in. At least wait till Thornton gets in trouble. Nonetheless, Vazquez should have been pulled in the 6th after letting a batter reach base. Not after spiff goes south.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 03:09 PM) The only way I see Vazquez heading to Oakland is if we're prepared to pick up a significant chunk of his contract. Small market A's aren't going to want a $12M bust. Well the DBacks and Yankees are picking up half of his contract for next year, we throw in a couple more million and he turns into a $4M bust.

This is Ozzie's fault. Pitching Bobby for a third straight day after he's looked like spiff the past two days is just stupid. I'm getting sick of this "He's my closer so he will always close" bullspiff. We should have left Thornton in, he only threw 7 pitches the inning before and threw just 1/3 of an inning each of our previous 2 games, not to mention how dominating he has looked.

Ok stat freaks - I wanna see something. I want to see our pitchers ERA and GS with Mackowiak in center and BA in center, especially Vazquez. It seems the guy costs us so many runs out there.

Any Cartel fans in here?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 09:02 PM) Imo, that's not just the icing, it's the cake + the icing + the sprinkles + the bitter birthday clown + the pony + the presents + ... Wow. How does that come into his head, anyway? "Hey sugar tits" might be the funniest part.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 07:44 PM) You have got to be fishing spiffting me. The cusswords should be allowed this one time. My god, the guy is Paul Konerko, the heart and soul of the team. Give me a fishing break. ALL players go in slumps, including Paulie. What filters? And greg, if you want a fishing break, go ahead, we won't hold it against you. Just post about your catch in SLaM.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) Since his name has been brought up here, seems worth mentioning that Sal Fasano was picked up by the Yanks for a minor leaguer. Kelly Stinnett dfa. I noticed Fasano had to trim the Fu Man Chu but got to keep his mustache. I didn't know the Yankees allowed facial hair of any kind?

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 01:41 PM) Uribe's not the greatest shortstop out there but Soriano made a lot of errors at 2nd base, I couldn't imagine how many he'd make at shortshop. He meant he wanted to upgrade the position, not use Soriano to upgrade the position.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 09:37 PM) If we banned arm chair managing/GMing from the site there would basically be no point in even comming here. Yeah, and it seems we've been slow as of late as it is.

I have never been a big Mel Gibson fan. Even though Braveheart is one of the all-time greatest movies.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 08:47 PM) I would say what he did from 01-03 is pretty close to dominating, especially when you can throw over 220+IP for those 3 seasons and average over 200 K's for those seasons. Not saying he's going to get back to that, but it shows what he's capable of when he's on and doing everything right. As far as I know, the big inning has always been his problem. Just moreso this year, with no dominating starts in between.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 08:42 PM) Oh, ok. Yes, of course. His offense has been spectacular this year. Have you seen how many times runners have advanced an extra base on him this year? It's happened quite a lot. He doesn't seem to get to the ball fast enough, or he doesn't come up firing when he gets there. And he's extremely slow out in RF this year. Have you seen how many times runners have chosen not to attempt an extra base on him this year as well? Of course, nimble is not something I would ever call him.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 08:40 PM) No Sox fan who wants to win is upset we didn't keep Frank. In a perfect world, he would have retired a White Sox. It still feels funny seeing him in another uni.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 08:34 PM) In Cuba. The MLB is a whole different ballgame. This is Contreras from 2004 and the 1st half of 2005; 2004 (NYY) - 8-5, 5.64 ERA, 82K's, 42BB's. 2004 (CHW) - 5-4, 5.30 ERA, 68K's, 42BB's. 2005 (1st half CHW) - 4-5, 4.26 ERA, 72K's, 48BB's. And Vazquez put up 3 sub 4ERA's for the Expos from 2001 to 2003. Ever since he left them, he hasn't been the same. But he's got the potential to that get back to those type of numbers, if he uses his stuff better and makes the right decisions on the mound. Vazquez still hasn't ever dominated. Returning to mediocrity would be a nice step, but he's never achieved anything near his limitless potential, which is one of the sadnesses of sport.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 08:35 PM) To pick up his option. We'd be insane not to, considering what he could get on the open market. Jermaine sucks. He can't throw out runners remember?

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 03:17 AM) His OBP alone makes him very appealing. Just think of how many extra RBI opportunities Gooch, Thome, and Paulie would get with him leading off. The contract is really his only issue. It would take a lot of adjusting for me to just get used to looking at him. He's really an extremely ugly man.

QUOTE(Yoda @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 05:59 PM) It was a big stretch in the off-season to say that Big Frank would hit 30 HR's for this year. Look at him now. I would say that getting 30 HR's out of your DH is something, especially when it comes from a player that hasn't done that in a while because of health issues. I don't know how SoxTalk feels about this, but no matter what I'm glad we didn't keep Frank, we just don't have a place for him on this team.

QUOTE(zaw @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 12:04 PM) verlander- he's not being ridden at all; gimme a break. the guy is easin his way through all these games. he's a stud; he's the next randy johnson (oops, no, make that bonderman) (cripes that guy in minn (damn their luck).) cheers This may be one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen. How about we make an Anti-QOTM thread? To keep track of utter stupidity on this website.

A non-home run hitter would love to play in this park. A lot of ground for outfielders to cover = extra base hits and singles.

QUOTE(Sam @ Jul 29, 2006 -> 08:20 PM) The Sox have a team option on Dye for $6 mil next year. EDIT: Damn you Jake...