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The ROY and MVP awards are quite different. There are always going to be multiple MVP candidates. That's not the case with ROY. Longoria should get it IMO. Quentin, unfortunately, was taken out of the race.

Just piggyback Richard and Broadway. From what I've seen I like Richards for about 4 innings, then he drops off. In fact, Clayton's given up 12 ER in the 5th inning (3 IP).

On a side note, if this makes Youkilis win the MVP, I'll vomit. Please give it to Hamilton.

QUOTE (JoeCredeYes @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 02:05 PM) Is it just me, or when you hear "pin in wrist" are we talking career threatening here. I did something to my wrist bench pressing like 4 months ago, couldn't do a push up for months without the thing hurting, never got it checked out of course, but after 4 months I think it's about 90% recovered. These things just seem to take forever to get back to full strength. What a shame, guy could have had an MVP award on his mantle. I've had wrist surgery involving pins. The pins were out within 2 months. I was back to 100% within 4-5 months (rehab and s***). My injury was not a broken wrist, it was a torn ligament and ligament detachment from the bone (which I think is more severe than a bone break). It's not going to be career threatening. Ironically, my surgery was done by the hand/wrist specialist from Rush which I believe are the doctors the Sox players see. If it is, Carlos is in good hands.

Full Cubs uniform and I go around chanting Woo.

I'd like to see Swish move up ahead of Quentin in the 2 spot. Not only is the OC/AJ combo have the worst OBP in our lineup, but aside from Ramirez, are the two least patient hitters. Getting Carlos to see some more pitches and getting a higher OBP ahead of him can only help. In a lineup without Pauly, OC and AJ are our two least productive hitters. It doesn't make sense to keep them there, IMO.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:35 AM) This is kind of puzzling. Why would the Nats trade away a pitcher that is 23. Anyone want to tell me something about this guy. Ie, is he for real and are we talking about a nice long-term acquisition or are we talking about a guy thats been pitching way over his head, despite being young. You have to like the fact that he has fewer hits than innings pitched, but he has thrown a decent number of walks and doesn't get a ton of k's. Is this guy going to get lit up in his transition from the NL to AL. Also, we have to be talking about a package which involves both Fields & Poreda correct (why would the Nats trade a 23 year old without getting significant pieces in return). Hell looking at his minor league numbers, the guy just shot through the system. 2006 was his first full season and he was nothing short of mediocre, than 07 he goes from High A to the Majors. 08 he spent the entire time with the Nats. FB (88-92), CH (~80), CB (mid 70's), and I think he added a SL this season. I believe his CH is his best pitch. He throws a two-seamer so he gets good movement. He doesn't have particularly great stuff. Danks and Floyd each have better stuff. I think right now would be a case of buying high on him.

Considering Griff should sit vs the vast majority of LHP, you're looking at adding a ~.380 OBP vs RHP. If Pauly were to turn it around even just a little, you are also looking at having a quality bat off the bench vs LHP and RHP.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:17 AM) Please don't question my fandom. Its an argument you will lose. I'm saying Griffey isn't very good anymore. If he's playing CF think Carl Everett in 2003 and Rob Mackowiak in 2006, maybe slightly better. Oh please. Griffey may not have the range anymore, but he'll get good reads and breaks on balls. Crazy Carl and Mack were just clueless out there. Griffey's played a little CF before.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:16 AM) Don't we already? Exactly. We already have a corner OF playing CF. Griffey's range has left him, but he knows how to play the position. Swisher is still learning it. I don't think it's as big of a downgrade as some are acting like it is.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) Williams found a way to decrease this teams playoff chances then. I don't think so. Defense may go down some in CF (Swish isn't good either), but defense now goes up a ton at 1B. I'd rather have 1 defensive hole and not 2. Plus we have Anderson who will most definitely be playing a prominent role in the last 2-3 innings of games.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) Ah it wouldn't be a thread without dick bringing up konerko again. And everyone, Thome and Konerko will not platoon at dh, thome hits righties and lefties better than paul. We all know Griffey isn't going to play everyday cf, so something else is going to happen. I'd look for kw to possibly flip jr to someone like the mets or az for pen help. KW loves Griffey. I doubt he moves again. I think Griffey is our CF.

Griffey vs RHP: .261/.373/.452 11 HR, 43 BB, 38 K He's not going to play much vs LHP so his overall numbers mean little. He can still hit, and has over a .900 OPS in the last month. I don't believe Griff will be much worse than Swish in CF, and Swish is a hell of a lot better than Konerko at 1B. Good trade.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 09:02 PM) http://www.82games.com/0708/07CHI9A.HTM Deng had 67% of his shots assisted last year. The year before, 69% of his shots were assisted. Gordon on the other hand, 52% this year, 45% of his shots assisted in 06-07. The reason why I included 06-07 was because that was both their best year. So there is no way you can tell me Gordon is a catch and shoot player and then not going to mention that Deng is more of an abuser of getting his shots set up by others. And how many times have you seen Gordon dribble around at the top of the key for a while and chuck up a 3? A bizzilion...

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 10:23 PM) Uh, yeah, that's what he's had. I didn't say that he's a Kerry Wood-like wuss who's on the DL twice a year with pitching-related injuries. But he did also have those in 2004, as you pointed out. Ok, I guess I just don't consider an appendectomy and a broken leg from a liner "issues." Maybe I wasn't taking your comment literally enough. Then yes, he's had health issues over the course of his career.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 04:26 PM) He's 32, has missed significant time with health issues over the course of his career, and has over 1,700 innings on his arm. Do you want to trade away a cheap, 25-year-old pitcher with a mid-90's fastball and devastating breaking ball and another cheap, young third-baseman with 30+ HR power for a guy like that? It may be a great move for the short-term, but I don't think it's going to help the franchise over the long run. "Health issues over the course of his career"? The injury that put him out in 2005 was a broken tibia from a Kevin Mench liner. 2004 was the only season in which he missed significant time with arm/shoulder issues in the past 7 seasons. A ton of pitchers have seasons like that, and that does not mean they are injury plagued. And he still made 21 starts that season. Going from 2002, he's made 34, 36, 21, 19(broken tibia), 32, 31, and is on pace for 32 this season. Roy Halladay is a horse. An absolute f***ing horse.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 08:12 PM) Gamel, Escobar, and their top catching spect are still in the fold. Not to mention Jeffress, who may have the best FB in the entire minors. Although he comes with baggage.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 06:14 PM) No. Way too much in young talent for a good pitcher with arm problems. Plus why would you give up a rising quality pitcher like Floyd? You keep what you have in my book Arm trouble? You mean in 2005 when a liner fractured his tibia? Doc has been the biggest horse in the league for quite some time. If you wouldn't give up Floyd for a Roy Halladay signed under market value for 3 years, you've lost your mind.

OMG, a pitcher pitching well without a 95 mph fastball! Plus command, a plus curve, and a good cutter. Sign me up. Don't give a s*** that he can't run it up in the mid 90's. Duch wasn't a failed SP turned RP. In fact, he was damn good throughout the minors. He moved purely based on the fact Oakland's rotation was nasty and the pen wasn't. He became an all-star there, and now he's back in the rotation where he's needed. He's good. Not this good, but he's good. I'll put Buehrle, Duch, Vazquez, and Danks up against any playoff rotation in baseball.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 01:12 PM) The cost would be too high anyways. We've got Linebrink and Dotel dominating in the 7th and 8th innings for the most part, so all we need is a good RHP (or even a LHP because Logan and Thornton have been struggling) who can come in a bit earlier than that. Someone like a Heath Bell or a John Grabow for example, who would come a lot cheaper. I bet Bell would bring in more than Street. Bell is a stud and should take over for Hoffman shortly.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 02:22 PM) Not only that but how are Carpenter, Clement and Pavano bigger names than Freddy at the time? Apparently you have to had made more than 2 all-star games, had more than 1 18 win season (by the age of 27), and have a lower ERA than 3.20 at the time of the trade. The Red Sox (or Yanks? or both?) wanted Freddy badly IIRC. If he would have went to to one of them instead, god knows how much of a hype Freddy would have gotten.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2008 -> 02:26 PM) I disagree with you. I think 220 games with Brian Roberts is definitely worth more than 60 games with OC. That's where the value lies. If this was before this season, then I could see OC and Roberts being similar in value, but right now, on the market, Roberts is definitely more valuable. If not for the simple fact that there would be more teams willing to acquire Roberts. OC is limited to only contending teams in need of a SS (which amounts to maybe a few teams).

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jul 23, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) How is that possible? Unless we chipped in more, of course. But I think Roberts is worth more than Cabrera. I see it that way too. However, it all depends on the Dodgers and how happy they are with Nomar at SS.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 23, 2008 -> 11:12 AM) It an ideal situation, but the defensive infield would suffer a ton. That's true. Though it's well worth it to get some consistency from the offense. Roberts would be so perfect.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jul 23, 2008 -> 11:08 AM) Hmmm that's interesting. Seems as if the Sox may want to not take the draft picks for OC if they can upgrade the middle infield right now. Wonder if they would consider a 3 way with the A's instead, and us acquiring Mark Ellis perhaps (although I can't remember what his numbers are this season). The only way we trade OC for another MIF is if he is a big upgrade at the leadoff spot. I don't see why you would sacrifice the draft picks, switch Ramirez to SS mid-season, and lose Ellis after the season. With Roberts you get a big upgrade at leadoff, retain that upgrade for the 2009 season, and get the drafts picks once he becomes a free agent in 2010. A move for Roberts using OC makes a ton of sense, but for other marginal upgrades like Ellis, it doesn't.