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and another great Jeremy Gonzalez start.

Bummer that Ramos injury hit him out. Just goes to show what fools gold Hostetler kept buying

thank god that's updated, hahn puffed his chest out a lot when the 2010-2020 looked so favorable on the sox because of Anderson/Sale/Semien. Going into a tear it down rebuild and picking hostetler to give the top ten picks to...woof.

bummer, dsl delayed

Try the veal!

Same story for the braves.

Hahn hasn’t failed because of budget constraints

I didn’t say he’d be hired as a GM?

Yeah it feels like this is CBA year 1, next year will be Year 2.

I think sox do to some extent know what "advanced stats" are important, but have a common cycle of: trying to make changes to achieve against one of these metrics being bad at it and not seeing a change assuming it's the players targeting players that have exclusively that skill See it not actually help them because they weren't smart enough to balance out the impact of improving that skill vs the decline of getting bad players that were only good at that one skill I think they cannot figure out where the balance is between Player Development helping players develop plans and improvement and finding players that can be best improved by these plans, so occasionally they'll try to just force feed players that already have that skill. But if they were available and the sox could sign them, well there was warts elsewhere. There was definitely warts. They are a little bit better at it in pitching, but even so you see their ability to get good strikeout ability from their pitchers has come at a cost of command. And maybe that was a plan because they can't teach defense or find players with any baseball instincts whatsoever.

I can't remember this rule, is it you can't pick in back to back years within top 6 if you are a non-revenue sharing team?

I think he could find another position in the MLB in some capacity pretty easily.

I think Hahn could legitimately resign.

No 2b from OSU please.

damn those are good.

I think he's going to be popular because he's local (everyone in organized baseball around here would talk about him), but the big thing is suddenly these really tall players went from one single anecdote to multiple. Add to that he's young. Add to that, just less reps in the midwest. Unfortunately the sox drafted him, and his hamstrings will likely rip in half soon.

looking back that year was our big preview of hahn teams that deployed astonishing lack of power given what the sox identity was for a good decade prior.

It was an awful year but it was sposeda be a year of ascension. But yes prior to this year 2015 was my least favorite sox year of all time.

I'm not advising he be brought back, I'm just saying of the entire white sox ecosystem it's pretty much only Ozzie who thinks the white sox should hold themselves to the standards of being world series champions and not "just doin their best gaharsh!"

AJ Pollock has a 48 wRC+, it was one of the most fortunate things to happen to the sox in my lifetime. But a continued trend of Hahn buying players just as they are about to implode and end their career.

Was listening to Ozzie on the score… While I’ve always found it laughable bringing him back because Ozzie’s latter years were rough… Its not lost on me that he may be the only person with ties to the org that actually holds them to high standards.

A snippet from Keith Law: Wake Forest righty Seth Keener (3) moved to the Deacons’ rotation as the spring went on, showing three average pitches with the changeup as his best weapon, and throwing a ton of strikes despite a rough delivery that has some effort to it. I know scouts who see him as a potential starter long-term, but I’d bet on a bulk role or a short relief role. Catcher Calvin Harris (4) doesn’t throw well for the position but has power from the left side and can receive well enough to stay back there. He’s more likely a backup than a regular, but in the fourth round, even getting a guy to the major leagues is what you came for. Lefty Christian Oppor (5) was a draft-and-follow last year for Oakland, but declined to sign with them after his velocity jumped to 95-98 mp this spring, with huge life on the pitch. He has a slider and changeup but both are a work in progress. I love this kind of shot at upside in a round this late. Texas lefty Lucas Gordon (6) was 90-92 early but slid to 88-90 later in the year, with a solid-average to 55 changeup and a fringy upper-70s curveball. It’s funny that the White Sox took him, because when I saw him in February I wrote in my notebook: “6-1, looks smaller, Jim Parque build.” Gonzalez was as you'd expect, solid across the board, no plus tool. Though: "I could see him getting to Double A quickly, and I do think he stays at shortstop long term." https://theathletic.com/4681470/2023/07/12/mlb-draft-2023-american-league-report/

FWIW mlb pipeline had Keeler in their "most likely to arrive soon in majors"

you know one thing that sucks about Hahn is how in a decade the only fun "buying" he did at the deadline was in 2021 with kimbrel. Despite several, ostensible, competitive years. This was obviously whiplash from KW where sox were always finding ways to add even if it wasn't for this years team. Different time a bit, but KW got away with a lot with a small farm just by looking at deadline as a way to take on salaries from embarrassing franchises. Hahn tenure: - 2013: sell year (Peavy) - 2014: Rebuilding year - 2015: competitive year but we do not buy. This is a year KW would have definitely made a buy for someone to help in 2016. - 2016: it's all falling apart, so we trade Zach Duke. - 2017: sell - 2018: sell - 2019: sell - 2020: buy year, but do nothing. The team makes the playoffs with their pitching depth about to fall off a cliff because it is so young and had no build up. - 2021: We buy relievers and the worst of the traded 2b. So many legit amazing players traded, but hostetlers s%*# drafting already showing that we could only trade major league pieces because he was so fucking bad. - 2022: We trade a DFA'able catcher to take on bad money in Diekman. - 2023: Sell Well that's a lotta fun.

Chuck tries to take the negative wheel and drives right off a cliff lol.