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I just do not understand why Barkley caved so easily for a deal that gave him so very little.

Luis Reyes in bullpen, much better outing

Kinda weird

We can offer that to David.

David Stearns has had a year to live a normal life and didn't yet go running to the mets. Granted, his contract ends after this year and he probably runs to the mets. But on the other hand, by all accounts (a quick google search) he has a beautiful home on Milwaukee's east side. You can't just buy that in new york, no way. So I'd point out that Hawk Harrelson probably commuted farther while calling games as an 80 something year old who couldn't see. Those are things I'd do if I was a rich person who owned a baseball team that wanted it to be a winning team more than I wanted to pay people a salary to be my friend. That's what butlers are for.

I think in general the sentiment is correct that fans aren't smarter than GMs but white sox or at least soxtalk hivemind is the exception to the rule. We are absolutely better at this than Rick Hahn. I know I"d embarrass myself at a lot of setting up a complex organization, but on the other hand with a lot less data than Rick hahn this board makes a lot better decisions. Either Rick can't read or the data his team creates is bad, and he's never decided to correct it.

Do you remember last year when they called up Sosa from AA and sat on the bench and had 7 pretty nothing at bats? They had Remillard in AAA, who can play multiple positions. Would have been much more trusted from Tony too and they needed a body. Just horrendous scouting of their own players consistently. He's not a future starter, but he is a guy that can plug in and play competently - which sosa was not at that point. edit: and the people who follow the minors (like myself) pointed this out, that if they were going to call up someone and barely play them Remillard was a good choice.

This. It was a fun idea and all that the CBA introduced, but tanking is not just trying to get high picks in the draft as much as trading short term assets for longterm assets. The draft is one avenue, it's not the only one.

The counterpoint is now we see Masai Ujiri signed him to a 2-way contract.

That said there has been a lot of times where I thought a job was extremely unattractive and they still got top talent because there are only 30 jobs and it can be very tough to time correctly if you are in line for a GM role. Also want to correct - when I said top international talent I meant to clarify that was about the 16 year olds in the LatAm pipeline. They clearly feel more comfortable with older players as seen by success of Abreu/Robert.

I honestly don't think it's an attractive job at all and the types of people it would be attractive too are the kind that will be awful GMs. You generally don't want to attract talent in a role like this which has a key selling point of "we won't fire you even after it's proven you are bad!" It is extremely unclear what are true Reinsdorf rules and what are decisions his incompetent executives have made. I think it's fair to say the "big contract" stuff is a Reinsdorf rule. He will never, ever set the market. The avoidance of top international talent seems to be a reinsdorf rule, but it's unclear whether that is truly the case. It has seemed - as seen by the draft - that when a set budget is placed in it seems like sox operate more freely. Was Reinsdorf against prep draft picks or where his deputies just constantly on the treadmill of trying to use the draft for immediate roster infusion - and thus college players. Who to blame for the lack of investment in the minors and player dev? If it is reinsdorf, there is really no way you can build a winner. We don't get awarded extra draft picks, so if we can't try to overwhelm other teams that do with superior PD, then it really does funnel straight to "we need to use ourslightly better major league roster salary budgets to gain an advantage over our division". But that comes back to we can't spend big numbers on top talent, only mid. It's really hard to know what makes this group mid all the way down.

I can't stand that they let javon freeman-liberty go. I have like zero confidence that this guy will be worthless. He'sl ikely the next dinwiddie for sure now.

anyway mario camilletti had an insane day yesterday. Took his iso above .100 and thus now is an .850 OPS player because he walks so damn much. He may not make the majors until he's 35 but it's gonna be worth it.

but anyway, this is nihilist soxtalk now. I will cheer when Hahn leaves. But there is like zero date to true resolution. The McCaskeys are terrible owners, but at least they cycle thru people that show themselves terrible, and even though they will hire likely bad choices, we still have hope. We entered this year and only one thing could happen - they needed to win. ANd they are one of the worst teams in baseball and in an org that refuses to judge success by anything other than congeniality in the executive ranks.

yes, though will always stress that the CBA changes in 2012 moved sharply in hahn's favor. OTOH Kenny oversaw someone who was siphoning money from his operation and was federally convicted and also wasn't delivering good players so weird how he kept the job so long.

impossible to tell, the sox and catchers have been so bizarre. Never would have guessed Seby would have the leash he has.

The good news with a KW taking over I seriously don’t think he wants to do the heavy lifting of that job anymore and would be likely to hire a replacement. The replacement has a high chance of being bad, but it will be someone else.

it really seems like their sole plan is always to obscure responsibility. Is the failure due to poor coaching or poor philosophy? On the white Sox, no one knows because when they bring in a single “ great man” up top to change things (Katz, ostensibly Stevenson and sparks) they keep the same coaches. Is it the coaches failing, the philosophy or the scouts not giving the right players? On the white Sox, no one can know. The coaches can fail the philosophy, but blame the philosophy and players. Scouts can blame the philosophy and players. Always Be Preparing a non-managerial level Scapegoat, the white Sox organizational philosophy. (ABPNS) or pronounced Abpenis

Dalen has zero route to minutes this year.

@Quin they did officially sign bitim https://www.threads.net/t/Cu9uqb-uRHZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

I think this is dumb. There are too many examples of the Sox failing to use their resources than to spend time in Diekman. You know who was bad before he got to the Sox? Jake Diekman. On the Red Sox! welcome to middle relievers. They are great and horrible. Especially in their 30s. That’s why you don’t take on future salary for zero reason on one. Again - what is reason for success on Touki and Santos and Middleton? We must be geniuses.

Still shows his good command despite throwing so much off speed. But he’s definitely shown more hits against this year. Hell need to show another leap soon, hopefully he has it in him because the org won’t find it for him.

It’s funny I think that’s his worst start so far. Not sure, repeating DSL not great.

I do wonder if you just didn’t swing the bat like that dodgers catcher in spring training how many walks you’d get in A ball