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The reporting of this deal has been so bizarre.

Props to the jokester who claimed it was Semien, Danish, and Trey. Really softened the landing.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:02 PM) Still wouldn't be surprised if an Alexei trade to the Dodgers is coming. Just gonna throw it out there that I would then find all of our moves terrible, as our infield would have to be league worst.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:36 PM) We still have to significantly upgrade the defense. If we are going to build our team around the strength of pitching, we can't continue to ignore defense. Our team defense is just as bad today as it was when we started the off-season. That has to be addressed. Hanh / Kenny have to make another move and at a minimum we need a quality outfielder. Ideal scenario you get a quality outfielder and 3B and at that point, I say you are even favorites or close to even favorites. However, I doubt we have resources do to that. I totally agree.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) That's just fandom - for some, not all. I'm one who didn't want to pay Robertson, but now that he's ours I'm finding ways to rationalize it. We're inclined to be happy about things the Sox do because we devote so much time to following them. Otherwise we'd run into some bumpy cognitive dissonance. I'll say this, I was someone who entered this offseason very scared that we were about to waste the next 2 years of a really great core of Abreu/Sale/Q. Others wanted to continue the build for a really strong 2018. I'm happy with this because I did not want to see any more irrelevant seasons from one of the best sox hitters of last 10 years, best sox pitcher in who knows how long, and Q, who is great. You are great Q.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:06 PM) The counterpoint is do I want to risk the White Sox's season on Viciedo being a vastly improved, tolerable OF to save that money? This is a silly hypothetical. Nobody is pointing a gun to our head saying "TAKE CRAWFORD OR YOU'RE STICK WITH VICIEDO"

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:10 PM) Considering those tickets were probably over 100 bucks. You could just sit in someones basement and get wasted for free. It seems like every NFL game these is a crazy amount of drunks and huge brawls. I don't think I would bring a kid to one of these games. Agreed, I don't think I ever want to go to a Bears game again after last years Rams-Bears game.

I haven't even been able to process this signing. Too much was invested in finding out what would happen with Samarzija trade.

QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) We did not even have to have our management tell us that we were all in (Theo). We figured it all out on our own with our mgmt moves. Considering we had a marketing campaign of "All In" i'm not sure we can claim high ground here.

What a world, where the yankees keep getting comp picks.

Do you really want to risk 20mill a year on the hope it was just a "loaded" of?

Definitely seems like Hahn's negotiations are longer while KW would call up out of blue with a fair offer and things would happen quickly.

So Nightengale just tweeted this has basically been done for a few days (probably the Saturday spurt). I wonder if there are auxiliary moves they were hoping to hit alongside? Or just Lester setting market again I guess.

I can't believe they can sleep with this stuff half done.

So many saying it's not going to happen tonight, yet I...I don't...I ughghghghg

I heard a lot about Semien's superb pitch recognition...

but they don't understand that my time is me being more tired.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:47 AM) Where's the rumored 4 player deal coming from? Poster JDsdirtysox (I think, JD something) posted it, and someone else said he has sox connections. Seem to fit bucket's "some will hate this" narrative well.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:43 AM) Out of the two players, Danish has more upside, imo and given his delivery and where he is, he's still far away. Semien will be a solid player with upside of slightly above average. I don't think he'll be more then that and I could see him being below average as well. All that said, I liked Semien, but that is the type of guy you are willing to move, especially from an area that this org has significant depth in. I still think we should sign Shark to an extension and this is coming from someone usually very anti longer term deals with a pitcher, however, he seems willing to take a hometown discount and if he is and will do a deal in the 5 yr neighborhood (sub 100M) then its a no brainer, imo. Now our next all-in deal will be an outfielder/closer. I'd say something like Rasmus short term would be most realistic but maybe we'll see a classic Kenny move and Sox will acquire Kemp or Upton. If he signs a 5-year sub 100 million dollar deal than I will say I'll eat my hat and never eat it.

I like Danish a lot, but he was a great candidate to trade. Still an unconventional delivery and unconventional stats. I was excited to see how far hsi extreme ground ball rate and everything would go, but that could disappear quickly. EDIT: DANISH DANISH DANISH

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:24 AM) Semien, Danish, Trey would be okay with me if we can get an extension. If we don't, I'll be pretty upset. Agreed. I don't know why I believe that he will sign with us, but man I feel that would be incredibly dumb for us to pursue this guy if it wasn't for longer than 1 year.

QUOTE (staxx @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:22 AM) Let's not overvalue our prospects. A legit #2 for Danish/Semien is a relative small price to pay. See Russell, Addison. Trey isn't nothing, but yeah, don't hate it as much as when I thought it was Hawkins. It is rough, that is 2 of the more interesting guys in our system. I never got behind Semien, but best of luck to him.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:54 AM) Mibelt Rodriguez is a fraud. Dude is never on point with anything. Wouldn't put any stock into that. Yeah, you see the guy is a hanger-onner on Twitter.

yuck.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) I said this earlier today and stand by it. If the White Sox were an 87 win team last year, Tim Anderson for Jeff Samardzija would make perfect sense. Prospect with talent who is raw, ~top 50 in the big leagues, 2-ish years away from being a big league rookie and 3 years away from probably making a difference, decent bust potential, in exchange for pitcher who outperformed contract last year, no injury history, could easily push team to 90 wins and into the playoffs, fits in the rotation, and could be offered a QO/return of a draft pick at the end of the year if he's unable to be resigned. That's a perfect deal for a team right on the cusp of winning a division/right on the cusp of competing to make. Even an 85 win team last year, that's perfectly sensible for the White Sox and fair value for the As. The problem continues to be we're closer to a 75 win team than an 87 win team. For that reason in my eyes there continues to be literally no version of this that makes sense to me. When you say no version of this do you mean no version of including Anderson? What if it is Semien.