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This happened to TA didn't it?

Bring it up there?

lol

It's pretty awesome when anyone whose parents were cops and teachers grows up to become a many-millionaire.

Right but that would have been true had he not signed the contract. The teams have a lot of leverage in these deals in that the next six years do not have guaranteed money if the player is terrible. Now Jimenez gets guaranteed money regardless of how good he is. He would very likely be good! But he could also get injured and never be what we thought, and now the dude gets a great life for his family and I'm happy for him.

well apparently it doesn't matter and I was wrong, but if it realistically got you years 8/9 on options rather than 7/8 that's an interesting gamble for 3 weeks. But I am glad I get a much better outfield of Eloy/LEURYGOATCIA/danny palka than whatever the hell was going to be in left field for 3 weeks

Thanks.

Also if they give him a signing bonus that gets spread out evenly, those 4/5/6 years could be very nice.

Now if part of this is Eloy being cool with still being called up 4/26, then you have the makings of a very good deal.

I mean, it's not the Q/Sale crazy win for the sox but it will make the player happy, creates cost certainty through 6 years for hopefully a game changing prospect, and the 7 and 8 years are not team guaranteed so I like it.

Telling people they shouldn't care about topics they care about is pretty patronizing. Especially in a thread that is about an interview with the GM where he discusses those topics. That's why you are getting the response you are.

I am pleased and am happy that the dollar amount makes more sense. 100 mill made absolutely no sense.

Right but that seems to be a better draft set-up for the dbacks/royals than the white sox.

I don't know, but I find it tedious when people can't object to the reasoning that informs the boards or posters pessimistic conclusions, just that they shouldn't have pessimistic conclusions at all because it makes them sad. There's been a lot of injuries. Too sad to talk about? Guys stop talking about it. Why be a fan if you are going to talk about what the team is doing? Let's just focus on how the team can make me feel positive.

Even the college picks and high school picks after witt/abrams I kinda like. The removal of a "gritty" college ace has made the options all look nice to me, however, I should temper my enthusiasm as even though the profiles are all a bunch of player types I like, I have seen a lot of comments that this isn't a particularly brilliant top of the draft.

I, too, want everyone to discuss only the things I like and not discuss the things I don't like.

Man their payroll is worse than I realized. You have to imagine they will be able to offload some of Price's deal after this year, and maybe they hope that JD martinez opts out at this point. Yeesh. edit: obviously they won a world series so this isn't heartbreaking but when looking specifically at how they keep their core it does look difficult.

The white sox have very few bats that profile as elite, so vaughn fits well into the system despite his limitations. "Adolph" is just entering AA and Burger has played one underwhelming half-season and been tore his achilles twice. That's pretty far from being "in the wings".

I think the thing that sucks for baltimore is maybe they do cut a deal with witt, you are going against the diamondbacks hoard of picks in that comp/round 2 zone. This also sucks for sox.

Draft vontae mack.

But wasn't that when the first slot was a gigantic amount that allowed you to change your draft with savings after? It's much more marginal now.

I guess I don't want hahn to be interviewed as much as lectured to. It's an easy answer that you have to balance the team value vs player value and it didn't match up this time. It's easy to act like you tried for harper. But he and some media do this thing where sox fans just have starry eyes and think you should throw money at every big free agent that comes along, and they need to be tough and realistic like the front office is. Two years ago when they started this rebuild they head nodded that they would shed salary while they amassed prospects, but that they would also spend money when the time came. It was obvious to fans like us and to hahn that he was talking about 2018-19 offseason where 2 superstars at age 26 would be available. When asked about this directly he did not shy away. He talked about how the money would be there, how they would have economic might due to the restructured team around cost controlled players. And so while in a typical situation where you have a fairly mature, competing roster toward the top of your budget, adding what would likely be another 1/3rd of your budget to one player would be a balancing act unlikely to tilt toward signing it. But that wasn't the sox situation. They had economic might and a target on these players backs because they were young, would be productive throughout the rebuild, and could afford to pay a large dollar amount to one player because the total budget would still be reasonable due to the amount of cheap talent. They keep answering the question as if signing this player maxed out their budget before they were in the rebuild, but that was not true. And we all know the real answer is that they were wrong about the market and what it would take and that they could get what it would take from a historically dogmatic owner on "what players should get". All of that could be predicted but they didn't because they were bad at their jobs and so that's not an interview question its a lecture but I want him to own up to it which he never will so all interviews will be bad. edit: I dont even know why i wrote that out, we all know the truth at this point it was written 1000x in a 6million page thread. But they are trying to change the narrative that it was about responsible choices when its actually that they are bad so i'll just repeat myself to everyone.

Yeah, I think in general having known ticket reps I'm sympathetic to backlash being targeted at that group (its like taking it out on the hot dog vendor to be quite honest). But I have really been annoyed by sox ticket reps recently. They have very siloed structures that make any questions you may have that may require the events team to answer instead of your individual rep, you get basically asked to contact directly. Very little follow-up on questions asked, very little assistance in correcting mistakes. And I compare this to how chicago fire reps interact with me when I bought like one ticket 3 years ago, constant touchpoints, answering every question, following-up to see if my experience went well. It just makes me want to go more. Part of the sox brand, for better or worse, has been that it's supposed to be the easy game to do for the casual fan, for the family. But between the security protocols (which they can do nothing about), the poor ticket rep experience, the opening day fiascoes, constant chaos in april with the food vendors, it has just felt like sox games are very hard recently. Then, you know, I'll spontaneously go to a game in july when they have their act together, it's 85 degrees at night drinking a beer behind home plate for $30 and its like "damn I can never quit this." But in general I felt like they have been really poor recently.

Front office. Stearns could work under JRs constraints without being naive about them.

Im a bit surprised how much Clay Matthews got.