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QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 11:22 PM) The AL is so strong, I love it. I cant wait for the playoffs, even if our Sox arent in it. Don't even talk that way.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 11:13 PM) Team(s) as in how many? If more than 2, where are are the W's going to come from?? lol about 2 is what I was thinking. I still think the sox are going to get rolling and win 95+ then I think either the A's or the Yankees can/will do it as well. The a's have the pitching that should be able to stop a lot of long losing streaks from happening and start some large ones. The yankees have a good enough offense to win a ton of games just cause the pitching inside their division isn't exactly stellar, though I still think the yanks are 1 and done come playoff time(if they get in). So ya, basically 1-3 at most I can see doing it, otherwise you're right, there aren't to many pushovers in the american league, all those teams are in the national league.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 11:05 PM) I was just talking about this on the way to the game today. Everyone has been talking about its going to take 93,95 wins to get into the playoffs. My question is where the hell are all those wins going to come from? KC is bad, but there not going to lose 120 games, nor is Tampa. So who is going to lose all these games? The al is pretty loaded but the top teams are still going to win 95+ imo.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 11:05 PM) Sheesh, did Lance Broadway run over your dog or something? Piss in your cheerios? Rip on Ray Liotta for a week... Same thought went through my mind.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) Kids! :headshake

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:54 PM) It's way too early to be having this discussion. Hell, I remember hearing about a rookie CF starting off his career with an 0-40 or some such horrendousness. You may have heard of him. His name was Willie Mays. Sorry, doesn't ring a bell.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:53 PM) There's a few guys in that mold. I mean in a weak draft, he's got a chance to go top 10, he should probably come out now. Next year's draft is a LOT stronger IIRC. It could be, it has a chance to be insanely talented but that's assuming guys like Oden, Wright, Young, Durant, Noah, etc come out. All those guys I listed minus Noah are all going to be freshman this upcoming season so who knows if they'll come out or stay in school.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:21 PM) Yep, it's time for me to start hoping we pick up Brandon Roy or Ronnie Brewer in the draft. It will be interesting to see if we get Brewer, who you guys will go for with your 2nd pick, assuming you take Aldridge, because there isn't many good swingmen in this draft, after the top 5 or so. I've been hearing rumors that Brewer might stay now. We'll see, I'd still bet that he comes out but it doesn't seem 100 percent certain anymore.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:39 PM) Why are we even discussing this, by mid May I can guarantee a thread (or someone bringing back this one or another) called "Anderson is GOD" or "Aaron who?" Ha, good point. Probably will happen.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:38 PM) Which will be Anderson in a week. I have no idea why people think Anderson is a defensive liability. Cause he's made one bad play.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:36 PM) Look of course i'd rather have a Carlos Beltran, Andruw Jones, Aaron Rowand, hell even Hunter... But i'm trying to think of someone cheap who has some shot of giving us decent defense and an average over .200 Erstad ain't cheap though.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:33 PM) Works for me. Although, I could go all night on this topic. There should really be a seperate forum on this site for arguing the virtues of the slip-n-slide. Mods, I hope you are reading this. soxtalk needs to have a giant slip n slide party.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:25 PM) But the principle is the same. No matter how harmless a slip n slide is, the possibilty of hurting yourself is there. And like the Aaron situation, if he hurts himself, it'll be doing something other than what he is paid to do. I enjoy watching it. I think its refreshing to see a player have as much fun playing this game as Mark does. But I can't blame Kenny one bit for his stance on this. I can think of about 8 million reasons that he shouldn't be doing it, not to mention his importance to the team. The risk is small, but still... See, I disagree because basically now we're saying there is a risk in anything he does, and like I said I would bet there is more risk in some of his daily routines then there is doing this. What if he goes shopping and has a watermelon fall on his foot?? Anyways, I think both of us will agree this is a dumb argument, we're arguing over a giant slip n slide basically . I'll just let it go, no need to keep arguing.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:22 PM) Actually I was thinking more along the lines of Darin Erstad... Solid lefty stick... Above average defensive CF... Veteran with World Series experience... and I bet he could be had for a couple of less then top propects... Hell even from in Owens in you want... And when he gets injured then what? I'm actually one of the few people on here who likes Darrin but putting him back in cf like the Angels have done is just asking for an injury.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:19 PM) Anyone else see how important this statement is? Remember last season after Brandon McCarthy was giving up quite a number of homers, quite a few posters felt he was definitely expendable to get a Burnett or Schmidt at the deadline. Instead we've got a young pitcher who's not making much money at all, and is probably our best bullpen pitcher right now. I think that's one of the harder things in baseball to do..stay patient with young players. That being said you just have to do it because if you believe in that player, you just can't give up on him after 2 weeks, a month or even a year. It takes different players different amounts of time to grow and become the player they have the potential to be. You give up on a young, talented player this quick and a lot of time it will come back and bite you in the ass.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) It almost reminds me of when Aaron Rowand busted his shoulder when he was riding dirt bikes during the off-season a few seasons back. You can see why the Sox are maybe a little bit leery after that type of thing happens. Once again I see your point and that's a good point because a player has had a freak thing happen to him recently for this club but riding a dirt bike is much more dangerous then a slip n slide.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:14 PM) And what do we give up for a real CF (like Ken Griffey Jr. I assume you're going to suggest)? Forget the fact that we're only 12 games into the season as well. Just give Brian a chance(not directing this at you dbaho), he looks horrible right now but he might just come around and he's talented enough to do so. As long as he can get his average to about .250 and provide some pop then he just has to catch the ball. You can not give up on young, talented players this quick otherwise you end up regretting it. Thank god Kenny hung onto Brandon after his first stint in the show.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:08 PM) Yeah....but there's not a giant mound in the middle of Buehrle's yard (at least I don't think). All it takes is one time for Buehrle to not correct judge where the bases are, and he could easily bust his shoulder. I love Buerhle's enthusiasm, but I can see why the Sox brass would put a stop to it. How do you know? I see your point but I just don't think it's that big of a risk, the guy is just having fun. I'm sure Mark does more dangerous things just about every day.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:09 PM) The Twins are significantly better, in my opinion. The additions of Castillo and Liriano to the roster, as well as getting rid of the free-swinging Jones will help their consistency. Getting back Torrii as well.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:04 PM) From top to bottom, this division is MUCH tougher then it was last year. KC is not a team that you can kick the s*** out of, they will battle you. Detroit is much improved. Cleveland may have regressed slightly, but they will battle you as well. Oh, and by the way, there's this team from Minnesota that will kick and claw their way through the division as well. Because of the imbalanced schedule, this division could EASILY see a 90 game division winner - because they are going to beat up on each other more then what happened last year. Eh, I see what you're saying but I highly doubt the division winner wins 90 games. I do agree though about Minny, that team will be our toughest competition, no doubt in my mind.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:06 PM) Well then Mark needs to find something better to do during the day. Fair enough, you got me there.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:04 PM) I think if anything, if Cintron's going to fight his way into a starting spot here, it would have to be at 2B, if we don't pick up Iguchi's option next season (although I can't see that happening right now). Gooch is going to be here next year, I don't think there is any doubt about that. And jeckle..why not? Because this team is based on pitching and defense, you don't throw a guy out there who's never played there before. Anderson right now can at least catch the ball and until he figures it out, that's just fine. Throwing Cintron out there would be one of the dumbest things a team ever did.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 10:02 PM) What would happen if MB actually got injured doing a tarp slide though? On the one hand I can see why KW and management would do this, they want to protect their investment etc., but then again it's pretty stupid. It's a giant slip n slide though. For all we know Mark has one at home and does this every day.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 09:57 PM) And that's why Juan is the starter, full stop. Cintron's a perfect utility guy to have though. Yup, I like Alex a lot. Just want to make it clear that there is a reason why Juan is our guy, he's one of the best defensive ss's there is.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Apr 16, 2006 -> 09:48 PM) I actually like our lineup with Cintron in it.... it seems to me we are dangerous everywhere in the order that way besides Mack/Anderson. Uribe gives you more power but I think Cintron will produce a better avg. Also I like him as a 9 hitter. Ya well Juan's D>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alex's.