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Stairs pops it up. 1 down.

Good ab by Brown there.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 06:20 PM) I didnt know that DJ hated Lima so much. He really doesnt like Lima's act at all He probably hated the guy dancing if he ever struck dj out.

Here comes clutch crash.

PAULY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meh, there's a surprise--I'm wrong.

Frank pulled his hands in to quick there.

I'll bet someone that Frank either goes yard or walks.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 06:11 PM) gooch is such an awesome DP man, has he ever screwd up one? Frank's first game back this season But you're right he turns it so quickly.

So far(obviously it's only the first inning) but his fastball has more movement today then he had in both of his first two starts up here.

QUOTE(Jimenez4MVP @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 06:04 PM) Career .267 hitter with a career .350 OBP... that doesnt suck EDIT: Yeah he is in their minors He sucks. I've never hated a player as much as I hated Jimenez.

Brandon strikes him out but walks him.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 05:08 PM) Which means no HD. I don't have HD, doens't bother me

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 05:06 PM) What channel is the game airing on tonite? I have directv and both WCIU and Comcast are showing Cubs vs Brewers as the listing? Is it on ESPN or ESPN2? It's WCIU

Woah, Ace you're alive??

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) The question is -- if we don't hit Lima hard will posters here transform into Hawk and say that Lima is really an ace-quality pitcher? The question is- If the Sox don't score in the first 3 innings if you are going to declare it corpseball and say this team sucks

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) id like to see at least one of our guys represent, hermanson and garland would be my choices Mark overall has been better then Jon this year. You need to have atleast 1 rep anyways, I'd honestly rather not see our guys pitch though but that's just me.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) I would rather see Cotts shifted into a setup role, with McCarthy staying in the rotation (if successful) leaving El Duque for a mopup role/long relief. Vizcaino, in my view, has been much better recently. If he can command his fastball, he can be very effective with his slider. As of now, hitters are waiting for the slider because he can't throw the heater for a strike. This would leave Shingo as the odd man out, shifting him to Charlotte until September, when he could rejoin the team as rosters expand. For now he would stay on the roster until El Duque is ready to return. Bottom line is, as I discussed with Jason this past weekend, Shingo just isn't going to get any better pitching once a week. He needs regular work in the minors. Very true, shingo is basically useless at this point. Last Tuesday he looked absolutely fantastic against the Dbacks it was the first time all year I saw him consistantly get his junk over for strikes. Putting Shingo in Charlotte would be the best possible thing for him and maybe he could find his release point and regain some confidence.

Good post Spiegle. I believe this is what Kenny is looking at, if Brandon pitches well it seems that he will take over The Duke's spot and Orlando will end up in a bullpen. Also if there was ever a rookie to rely on in a pennant race it would be Brandon because of his maturity level.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) this is ridiculous, were gonna be like the first team in history with the best mlb record to have nobody start at a position Unless Buehrle or Garland start the game but I expect it to be Halladay. Personally I'd rather have none of our pitchers there so they can rest a bit and I hope neither Jon or Mark will have to pitch when they go. The allstar game is nothing for me, I mean don't get me wrong it's fun to see our guys there but especially with our pitchers I hope they don't have to play.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) The excuses are just not cutting it anymore Such as not living in Chicago

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 01:24 PM) You weren't alive during Red's years, your a Bulls fan who lived and died with them at one point in your life. I would rather listen to somebody who had a clue on the topic because frankly you don't. Once again, why I don't post at Soxtalk as often as I'd like. Everything you said to me goes for you as well. You're a Celtics fan so you're biased, you also weren't around during Red's years. All I'm saying is it's a good question and you're acting like it's not even close or worth discussing.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) Crede does not fit this team! Hitting wise maybe he doesn't hit ozzie's philosiphy but defensively he sure as hell does and that's why ozzie has been backing Joe up all year not only will Joe hit 20 homers but out of everyone mentioned in this thread he's the best defender out of all of them(minus Chavez) including Randa imo.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 03:26 PM) I'm not "worrying" about it, I just think this is the same sort of thing that becomes ugly after losses. 'Everyone else sucks, except maybe the Twins. 8 game lead, that's such a huge cushion, this thing's basically sewn up.' No wonder people get peeved after a loss, if they think that even Cleveland is a complete fluff team. Cleveland's good, they will compete the rest of the way. I don't believe they'll catch up, but there's a long time and a lot of uncertainty to resolve between now and the end of the year. I'll be just surprised if they do, not laid low w/ shock. None of it's sewn up and I think everyone knows that. As I've said my opinion isn't based on how far back Cleveland is because we still do play them 11 times but it's based on my opinion that the Indians are just an average baseball team. I've said all year I believe the Sox and Twins are the two best teams in the American League so the Twins are still a threat in my mind but Cleveland isn't.

QUOTE(CubKilla @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:23 AM) You can devote an entire thread to, "Koch's Botches". This is true but I'll always wish the guy the best just cause of the way he handled himself here even though he was stuggling. But man, that game hurt so much momentum from that Twins series and it was all gone with one swing.