Rex Hudler

And HE'S the dick? Gotta luve the classy displays of today's youth!

Do you realize the Reinsdorf group bought the Sox for roughly $20 million. It is now valued somewhere in the $230-$250 million range. What do you think a World Series would do to the value? It would do nothing but go up. So caring only the bottom line and not about getting to a World Series is contradictory. Like JimH, said, they are already very rich men. They will be even richer when the Sox sell. There is no motivation for them to try and siphon another $5 million+ in profit each year, forsaking even bigger gains. Your logic just doesn't work.

When is the last time the Sox lowered payroll?? Hell, after the 2000 season, they more than DOUBLED payroll and it got them nowhere. Were you at every game in 2001, thanking the Sox for their commitment?? You are on an island that is sinking. If you want to be pissed at the whole world for all your problems, go right ahead. But your position here is laughable.

Jim, some people would rather just be pissed at the world. Talking logically isn't going to help. Your points are well taken by anyone with any sense.

Or they would become the Brewers..........

I don't because I can't get both games in HD. And flipping from High Definition to Standard Definition TV sucks!

Man, you need to sit back, relax and drink a beer. You have issues.

If picking up a 2B works better, than fine. I just get the hunch that the Sox aren't quite ready to turn SS over everyday to Uribe.

So would you rather have Uribe play SS everyday just because he is younger?? That makes no sense at all. One has nothing to do with the other. If you are suggesting the Sox go after Renteria or Cabrera, then fine, as long as the sum total of the additions betters the Sox. I don't know what you want here. Making getting Vizquel a piece of the puzzle means getting him at a lower cost than a high dollar SS will allow the Sox to better improve in other areas, including pitching. The bottom line is that the sum of moves that can be made in the offseason is what is important. Some moves allow others to happen. Some moves cause lesser moves to be necessary.

One more thing I don't understand....... The headlines reporting the Joey Shaw say his signing "starts IU's 2005 class". My understanding is that they will only have three scholarships come open next season. If that is the case, then the two transfers from Auburn (Killingsworth and Monrow) along with Shaw should complete the 2005 class, not start it. Am I missing something here? And FWIW, I really like Killingsworth. I saw him play many times on TV and live once last year at Alabama and he is a solid player. He'll rebound, defend and he has a real nice, soft shot from about 15 feet in.

I met Chris Lowery Saturday night. Real nice guy. I remember seeing him play in HS. Doesn't really have the look of a D-I coach, though. I hope they do well, except against the Throbbing Purple Aces.

Greasy and any other IU fans, I want updates on DJ White as soon as possible. From everything I have read, they are going to need him to step in and play right away this year. I saw him play in HS last year and wasn't all that impressed. He didn't run the court well (seemed to run funny) and his effort was spotty. I hope I just caught him on a bad night, but it was in the state playoffs, so I can't understand why his effort would be half there.

Major League Baseball is not the movies. The comparison does not fit. St. Louis still draws every year. The Dodgers do. Maybe, just maybe, some people come to games because they enjoy baseball and like to come watch a game. Maybe they like to see their favorite player(s), whether on the home team or not. Maybe people come with friends because going to a game is a good time. Maybe they are there with a group from work. Just because fans come to the ballpark for reasons other than the place their team is in doesn't make them less worthy, or you any more. I'm sorry, but Sox fans seem to carry some kind of syndrome that everyone hates them, their owner doesn't want to win to spite them, the media is against them, etc. And that regardless of the fact the Cubs are 10x more popular nationally, it is because all of those people are stupid and not as smart as Sox fans, along with the media who perpetuate that stupidity. It's like the little kid who is jealous of big brother and points out every way possible that big brother is advantaged. There may be reasons for this, but it still makes Sox fans sound like bunch of whiney little kids, ready to make an excuse for everything. Like it or not, that is the real perception of the White Sox and your "we'll only come if we win" attitude only fuels that. It's not real flattering.

I'm sorry, but I think that is a negative, not a positive. A real fan supports their team win or lose. I know attendance will dip naturally when a team is not competitive, but having the midset you describe is not a good thing. You say there were 30,000+ when the team was playing well during June/July, but you forgoet to mention that those are the busiest months anyway. School is out, the weather is good. All teams (minus the few exceptions that fill the park all the time) have better attendance in June and July.

Who said anything about staking the season on him? The only thing that has been said is that acquiring him would be a good "piece" of the puzzle.

I am an IU fan.......... who would understand better?

Actually he will be 38 next season and 39 the next. He will not turn 40 until a month into the 2007 season. April 24, 1967

Guess that is what makes the world go round, huh Yas. Then again, you are probably a UK fan too, which would explain a few things....... ;-)

I do know that Omar wants a two year deal. I think that could be doable in the right circumstance.

IU always has a hard time winning at Minnesota, even when the Gophers suck.

I know Mackey Arena can be a tough place...... I am not sure I have heard a louder atmosphere than when I saw Iowa and Purdue play there many years ago (while most of you were in diapers lol). I have never been to IU's Assembly Hall, but I have heard it is a pretty tame atmosphere compared to many of the others. Roberts Stadium in Evansville used to be a very tough place to play, but it has been a long time since that has been the case. I have only been to a half dozen other arenas personally. Alabama plays very well at Coleman Colesium, but that is not a great atmopshere for a college game. It is a very old arena with a lot of bad seats, including many empty ones until the SEC season starts. It is a good atmosphere when Mississippi State, Florida, LSU, etc. come to town, but can be dead early in the year. The Wisconsin game last year was like a ghost town, which is probably the reason the Badgers played like they were dead!

Which class are you referring to?

I look at it this way. Vizquel would be a great fit for the Sox. However, a leadoff hitter would have to also be acquired or the Sox hopes would need to be pinned on Harris being able to hit leadoff. I know most people on here are not Harris leading off. But if other holes can be filled, then time can be given to Willie to continue to develop. I don't think the Sox will go this route, but let's not forget that not many people here believed in Aaron Rowand before this season. Hard work and talent can equate to a young player improving. The biggest thing to remember is that none of these moves will work by themselves. A series of moves, even small ones will need to be made.

Think of it this way....... The Sox could be viewed as helping Furcal get over his problem by signing him. He won't need a car in Chicago. He can live in an apt. downtown and take cabs or the train whereever he needs to go. If he doesn't have a car, then DUI's are A LOT tougher to get.

I still like getting Vizquel to play SS, but Polanco wouldn't be a bad call if they would rather get a 2B. Neither by themselves will be a difference maker, however.