sayitaintso

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 01:45 PM) Seeing as we are now only about 6500 posts away from a million, this is as good of a time as any to open this thread back up. Is there a way to tell when we are on pace to reach 1 million. Like how many posts we average a day or something like that.

QUOTE(JoeBatterz @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 06:41 PM) I understood that we acquired Ozzie from the Padres in the LaMarr Hoyt trade. Yeah so that one doesn't work.

Can this guy be considered a legit prospect in a year or 2?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) You're very biased towards the Red Sox and I honestly have no problem with that, that's part of being a fan if you ask me. The thing is though, you're coming onto a White Sox board and doing trying to spread it. Listen r&w, the Red Sox just aren't very liked around here and there are several reasons for that and if you want an answer for that it's mostly because the way espn shoved them down our throats that last few years. Obviously that isn't yours or any other Red Sox fans fault but it gets to become very repetitive and annoying. You're a very intelligent fan but you're not going to get any backing when talking about the Red Sox here because most White Sox fans despise them.

QUOTE(mreye @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) I also heard JR modeled it after Yankee stadium. I heard it was modeled after Kaufman Stadium.

If the mets give away Heilman i think that tampa will get the better end of the deal in this trade. Looking from a long term standpoint.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 08:29 AM) Is Lester the guy the cubs used to have????? If so Reed for him seems a bit tilted toward Boston. No, i believe that there are two different people with the exact same name. The one on the cubs was spelled different than the boston guy, but i am going to check to see if i am right. The guy on the cubs is Leicester, Jon the red sox one is jon lester

QUOTE(The Critic @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 09:59 AM) I was at that final spring training series vs. Milwaukee last year. They looked like an 85-win team to me. Spring Training can be very deceiving. I ain't fallin' for THAT s*** again..... I was watching those games and thought the same thing. Damn you spring training games!

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 12:12 PM) Okay, maybe I'd buy into that if our fifth starter would be Scott Schowenwiess. But it's going to be Brandon McCarthy. And if we all assume Contreras will continue his second half/playoff success, why can't we do the same for McCarthy? If he can maintain anywhere near his effectiveness he showed last year, we still will have one of the best staff's in baseball, coupled with a seriously dangerous offense. If this trade went through, and personally, I doubt its going to happen, this team is better - hands down. But we are built around the little things and as you have seen this past season pitching is the s***, why get rid of it to become mediocre again. Just because their is one potential stud waiting for a shot at the rotation doesn't mean we should try to get rif of the count now.

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) I think its mainly the lack of pitching depth. Our strength is the pitcher. We tried having a team based around power for years, and it didn't work out. Now, with a team based around pitching, defense, and the timely hit, we won a World Series. Pitching depth in this league is very valuable in this league.. I'd rather hold onto it. All Damen has to do is look back at the years 2004-2001 to see this point.

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) Considering that pitchers spot was Vizcaino's last year, who gained a majority of his innings in mop up work, I'm confident we can fill that spot in spring training and the increase in offense Tejada provides will more than make up for it. I can see the argument that this may not be the best trade for us long term, in terms of shoring up salary space. But I can't understand for the life of me how anyone could think this trade wouldn't vastly improve us in 2006. The trade would improve our offense but weaken the pitching staff.

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) Crede. Damn i forgot about him, so thats five.

QUOTE(heirdog @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) Andy the Clown, Thanks for the info to get things stirring on the board. One question not related to the Tejada discussion: In you sig, you say you have "waited 37 years for this" (so I assume you are at least 37 years old) and then you say "if the Bears make the Superbowl..." So weren't you around in 1985-86 when the Bears not only made but won the Superbowl? I saw that too and wondered the same thing.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:57 AM) Some of you guys don't realize how lucky we were avoiding injuries in '05. That was unbelieveable, only about 4 guys went to the DL. (el duque, pods, frank, gload, im not sure if that is it but i think it is)

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) If you're trading Contreras and Uribe, then Tejada's salary is a wash. So you don't want to improve the ballclub while keeping the payroll the same? Then you are short one pitching spot in the pen since BMac moves to the rotation.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) So did Thome and Vazquez....and Tejada's a hell of a lot better than either of those guys. I know he is a lot better than both of them, but at the time we had enough money to use.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) I thought you would appreciate that Just an idea for the sig, but i would change the d to a t so it would stand for what would VAFan type?

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) Why would you not want Tejada on the Sox, in exchange for an inferior SS and a replaceable pitcher? He cost too much to get and alot of $$$$$$$$$$$. other than that....

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) Tejada signed with the Orioles because they offered him a HUGE contract, not because they were a competitive team. Just look at the Orioles' record in previous years before Tejada signed with them before the 2004 season... 2003: 71-91 (.438) 2002: 67-95 (.414) 2001: 63-98 (.391) 2000: 74-88 (.457) 1999: 78-84 (.481) 1998: 79-83 (.488) The Orioles were perennial losers before Tejada signed with them. He signed with them because he wanted a lot of money, not because he wanted to win. DING DING DING! Exactly.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:40 AM) hahahahah. I don't know how someone could type that much. It's amazing.

QUOTE(Adam G @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:38 AM) Hard to debate when you're twisting my words. I sense a Posting War.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) If he quit, so be it. But the guy is a serious leader, and it is well known that his energy brings improvement to teams. his own teammates say this, not some asshole sports writer who just wants to make waves. Remember, the opinion of one person, is not always true example: AJ Although I know what you are thinking right now: I wonder what VaFan thinks about this. FULL PAGE POST?

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) Hers another quote about Tejada from Foxsports.com It isnt made up Rock, its widely speculated. that is some good info kyyle.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) Heres a quote about Tejada Tejada plays baseball with passion and drive. He demonstrates his reverence for the game with hard play and vocal leadership. Teammate Brian Roberts told Peter Gammons that Tejada is the best player in the game because, 'He has an uncanny ability to knock in runs... his energy. He is always up, pushing everyone and making the entire team better." Orioles' hitting instructor Terry Crowley said, "This franchise changed the day he arrived." Bear in mind I dont want him here. But making up s*** like him being a cancer in the clubhouse is stupid. Let the cubs fans do that. So he is a good guy in the clubhouse is what that is saying.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) If its about Tejada's attitude, I think you should let that slide. There are a few people in the Baltimore organization that thought Tejada quit on the team last year. I think he is calling a BS on how true AndytheClown is. Im not saying he is lying or telling the truth, but i think that was what Rock was putting the BS towards.