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QUOTE (scenario @ May 8, 2008 -> 11:06 PM) Sorry Pops.

Carlos Danks

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2008 -> 08:36 PM) I think Mike Brown's replacement re-signed with the Colts last year. Because I don't know if I can think of any other safety in the league who has the impact of those 2 guys on the field. Well said Balta

QUOTE (knightni @ May 8, 2008 -> 08:15 PM) Mike Brown's replacement has been needed since 2006. As hard as he tries, and as great as he can be, he just is injury prone and shouldn't be relied on as a starter in the NFL. Mike Brown is a guy you can't replace. The difference in the Bears W-L record, Defensive #'s (particularly rushing defense) is staggering.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ May 8, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) I always vote Frank anyways. Even over Thome. It's the only spot on my ballot where I won't put the best player. I'm also guilty of this.

QUOTE (Soxpranos @ May 8, 2008 -> 05:45 PM) Floyd and Quentin where top prospects from their respected former teams. We'll be lucky to get a back up for any of the so called "fire sale" players we have. They need to get their numbers dramatically up so we can get any chance of a sleeper prospect. Floyd and Quentin were top prospects how Brian Anderson was a top prospect for us last year. Someone Major league tested that has not exactly panned out. So yes, there are more guys out there like that. If Kenny developed your line of thinking he should get fired on the spot.

QUOTE (Soxpranos @ May 8, 2008 -> 05:38 PM) I'm with you on that one, why do we keep dealing with the A's? why shouldn't we deal with the A's?

DJ: "c'mon Big Jim! Run into one right here." If he means getting hit by a pitch, I'll take it!

I thought he had the back door right there

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2008 -> 03:11 PM) Dotel really cranking up that K/9 today. He's having a 2007 Aardsma Moment

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 8, 2008 -> 03:06 PM) Swisher Every hitter except Carlos sucks right now.

that's 20% of our 2008 stolen bases on 1 play!

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) You could possibly get Howard if you included a halfway decent 1B going his way. It's a good move. I revised every deal to include Mike Jacobs from my end. I will keep faith in Howard until at least July.

QUOTE (JFields27 @ May 8, 2008 -> 12:54 PM) CQ didnt get here through our aging players he got here through Chris Carter who has tremendous power, but I am just pointing that out. People will want to put Thome and everyone out there while they are struggling but once/if they get back to themselves will want to keep them. Konerko with his rights would be hard to trade, Thome wouldnt go to the NL, and then we put guys out there who can walk. You can go trade Thome to Seattle, but what are you gonna get back, Wladimir Balentien would have been great to get before this season since he has not started playing for the M's and showing for the most part he can stay up in the MLB. I wasn't really making a point of WHAT we traded to get Quinten. Arizona gave up on Carlos and I am sure for the right vet/vet package 'Zona would have took it though. It would not be the first time Kenny traded a vet for a low risk/high reward guy. Getting these types of guys are not impossible to obtain for the mere fact that the organization they are coming for has given up on them. Kind of like how we almost completely gave up on BA.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2008 -> 09:18 AM) Agreed. I'm sure every franchise is the NFL was doing this. Until dirt comes out on every other team, I am going to assume the patriots are alone on this. This situation should not be over.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2008 -> 12:39 PM) No, this past offseason. Not sure why Kenny would go for OC instead of Phillips. But, If that deal was possible I am pretty disapointed it didn't go down.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 8, 2008 -> 07:41 AM) Anyone else having a flashback to Office Space? Nope. But I am of...

QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2008 -> 12:27 PM) I always wanted to see the Sox get Brandon Philliips in a deal for Garland. I'm sure we could have got him for even less than that. But yes, that would have been a gem of a deal.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2008 -> 12:24 PM) No, that's not possible. No one will gives us anything for our players despite many examples to the contrary. See Miguel Tejada good example. I'm just saying, Kenny has a good history with the low risk/high reward guys. Just look at our roster Bobby Jenks-Waivers Matt Thornton used to be Joe Borchard Gavin Floyd used to be Freddy Garcia with a 10 million dollar salary (plus we received Gio) Jose Contreras Used to be Loaiza . As bad as contreras has been after the extension, this risk certainly paid off. A.J. Pierzynski Free agent signing that no one really wanted a part of. Carlos Quentin (as good as Chris Carter can be, he still was an "A" prospect at the time.) Danny Richar ( again, a MLB ready positional player with good potential for an "A" prospect.)

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2008 -> 11:06 AM) Why do people keep acting like it's a good idea to go and put guys who are struggling mightily out on the trade market? "Oh sure, here, you can take my last 2 first round draft picks for a guy hitting .220 and making $12 million this year. Oh, and Juan Uribe? Sweet! I need a shortstop, here, take my best pitching prospect". If you want to do a "fire sale", you can't do jack squat until some of these guys pick it up. Pablo and Uribe are essentially worthless, trading Crede might net you something but it's going to be a disappointment because of his FA status, Thome and Konerko are hitting .220 (not to mention the 10-5 rights Konerko just picked up), and Cabrera is probably still going to net the Sox 2 draft picks this fall if he walks as a FA, which means you need to get something worth more than a pair of late first round picks for him if you deal him. I don't expect the sox to get any "top prospects" for any of the listed players. But, it would be nice to pick up some low risk/high reward projects that teams may have given up on . Some examples of the last couple years would be Brandon Phillips, Gavin Floyd, Carlos Quentin, Josh Hamilton, Oliver Perez ect

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2008 -> 11:03 AM) Exactly. Make it happen now. As comprised right now, this entire lineup needs to be revamped. If KW can pull out more quentins and floyds out of our aging players through a trade, I would jump for joy.

If the sox Must have a fire sale, they might as well do it right. as far as hitters go: Keepers Carlos Quinten Nick Swisher Brian Anderson Josh Fields AJ Pierzynski Danny Richar Fire Sale Jim Thome Paul Konerko Jermaine Dye Joe Crede Juan Uribe Orlando Cabrera Pablo Ozuna Needs First Base Shortstop

he could/should have made the 2000 and 2003 games.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2008 -> 10:13 AM) That's an odd statement. It was still a 3 run homer that counts against his ERA. I mean, for every pitcher in baseball you could make points like this. it just stands out because that is 75% of his earned runs. The indians were aready up 8-0 in the 7th when it happened. btw, I just tried trading cliff lee to just about every GM in my fantasy league lol hopefully, pujols, M. Cabrera(not likely) howard (maybe) or berkman (90% chance no) might come my way straight up for Cliff. Buy low, sell high!

QUOTE (Brian @ May 7, 2008 -> 07:48 PM) Cliff Lee goes 7 scoreless against the Yanks. ERA is a rather impressive .081 if it werent for a meaningless 3 run homer by the mariners, I believe his era would be 0.20 through 44.1 innings.