RockRaines

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) Don't you think he's pretty much earned himself a set-up type role though? I kind of do. The Sox really seem to like him. I think they'll end up using him a lot more than they used Masset. nah, he's a long man. Jose and Liney take Richard and Masset's spots on the 25 man.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:41 PM) ADIDAS f***ing rock. My soccer cleats agree with you, and were made in Germany!

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:40 PM) I have a feeling we're going to be big time Furcal players in Free Agency. Furcal and Alexei is slick in the IF. I feel like O-dog is headed our way instead with Alexei at SS.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:27 PM) I thought he signed with Indians, and then got traded to the Sox? Look at the rest of my post, I initially thought you asked how the Indians got him.

QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:29 PM) lets keep it simple with some type of sig bet, though I'd hate to see you lose yours... its pretty much one of my favorites on the board ever since it debuted last year. Either way im game. I can also put up a collectors item AJ Pierzynski bobblehead.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:24 PM) Speaking of baseball movies, what exactly did the Sox have to give up to get Parkman? Signed as a free agent. Then traded back to the White Sox for Isuro Tanaka

QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:24 PM) care to wager on your sig, since youre so sure he wont last a week in CF? 2 weeks is my guess, or 14 games. And sure, what do you have in mind?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:21 PM) Bowers Single handedly made me go out and buy the "Pump" glove.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:16 PM) In all honesty, I think the team is better today than it was yesterday. I'd prefer to see Junior at 1B with Paulie to the bench, we'll see what Ozzie's got up his sleeve. I think KGJ is better than Dye in the OF, so I would like Dye to shift to 1B preferably.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:17 PM) he trusted his guys. You know, if he would've kept the ultimatum, I'm sure that guy would've hit the home run. BUt griffey really snatched that shi**. Im just glad they started Wedman (sp?) Rock Raines made a sweet cameo in that flick.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:14 PM) I'm just wondering who is going to get replaced in this deal. All these veterans; some will see diminished PT and will probably brood. Sorry I don't worship Swish. Thanks for bashing my Swish trade comment and not answering my question. Has nothing to do with worshiping anything. On one hand is a guy who is worth a good amount, on the other is a guy who is worth 2 fringe minor leaguers. Would you have traded DLS, Gio and Sweeney for KGJ? Thats why your statement makes ZERO sense. And someone has to play less, its prob Swish and Konerko the most. If you can rotate Dye or KGJ to 1B, then you would see a lot less of Konerko and more of Swish.

Not a huge surprise, Pat Kane lives with the Bowman family in their basement.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:09 PM) Man you guys are Swish fans. I'm not. ... any official word on Griffey's role and whose PT is diminished? You must not be a common sense fan either then. Thats like going to McDonalds and paying for something off the dollar menu with a 50, just cause you didnt like the picture on the 50.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:07 PM) That would have been just a brilliant move...not! Im going to have to save that quote along with several other gems Ive collected over the years.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) I wonder why we just didn't trade them Swish for Griffey head up. really? You wonder why KW gave up the immortal Danny Richar instead of Swisher? Really?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:01 PM) You still have to question why they pitched to him with an open base in that big game. Bad managing, that kid was awful.

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp search Griffey and watch his defensive plays. Looks alot like Jermain Dye out there. Imagine putting JD in CF

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:51 PM) KW must not think CF is a defensive position which is odd considering his pursuit of Torii Hunter. Everett, Mackowiak, Swisher, now a 38 year old Griffey. That's not too much leather. Swisher is a below average CF, but at this stage he is a much better defensive CF than Griffey. I'm a big proponent of excellent up the middle defense. Theres no way KGJ plays CF more than a few times. Just wait until everyone on here and the ESPN and 670 guys see how slow he is in the OF.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:53 PM) They're going for the NLW crown- I can't blame them for wanting to win now. Woulda made more sense to go straight prospects to Pitt for Bay IMO. Manny is lazy f***.

QUOTE (JDsDirtySox @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:29 PM) The LaRoche Brothers together... thats pretty cool. Still can't believe the Pirates didn't get more. Looks like the Bucs think Alvarez is going to play 1B

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:37 PM) I thought the Pirates would get more. They clearly won this deal, what else could they have gotten? Meanwhile the Dodgers continue to draw huhs? from the baseball community.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:13 PM) The paperwork has to be filed by 3pm CST. The deals leak out over the next hour or so as they get processed. there will be more deals announced, probably not whitesox related. Like Manny to the Dodgers.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) Coming off the bench? Yes. If they put him in Cf one of two things will happen. 1. He will get hurt immediately. 2. They will clearly see he is worse in CF than Carl Everett on one leg. In that situation, he will become basically Daryll Ward.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) Putting him in CF is a huge mistake. I'm not crying about it, I just don't see why all the giddiness. Unless he plays 1B, there isnt a whole lot to get excited about. We picked up a DH/corner OF'er who is basically a mistake fastball hitter at this point in his career who will be coming off the bench.

I liked Richar a whole lot, as he showed last season that he could be a good 2B for a team with a bit of power and some OBP. His attitude may be the only thing that holds him back. Either way, KGJ in CF is a disaster and wont last more than a week, 2 when he gets injured. Basically you now have a rotation of corner OF'ers and DH types that doesnt really help the team a whole bunch other than getting Paulie's bat out of the lineup. Now if Dye or KGJ can play a good 1b, then we have something.