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Dr James Andrews performing Millers surgery. Good.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:41 PM) So I hadn't heard of this four square thing, just looked it up. Sounds terrible. It's damn hilarious. I took the paper from him at one point and started crossing things out. So angry.

So most of the people arrested the last two nights are from out of town? Just heard that on the radio. That's crazy.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:43 PM) i edited...it's a 33 degree That would explain the recent increase after switching from my G10's.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:40 PM) Not sure...for instance, your g25's are very strong...32 degree 7-iron...ping eye 2 7-irons were 36 degrees....my titleist ap2 7-iron is 34. The iron number means nothing...the loft is the number that matters...a lot of pros have iron sets with loft numbers on them and not traditional iron numbers. I-25's mofo!!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:24 PM) Keep in mind that your 7-iron from back then was likely 38-degrees. Today, your 7-iron is probably 34-degrees. Callaway hawkeyes arent that old are they?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:15 PM) Generally, irons these days are going to be a club stronger, but yeah, I generally hit a club equivalent to your 3-iron about 210-215 yards. I hit a club equivalent to your 8 iron 145 yards. My 3 hybrid is 240 and 3 iron3 is around 225 -230. My distances only starting getting better the last several years when I started really striking the ball. Back in the day my 150 club was a hard 7 iron which is now around 170-175

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:02 PM) I think contact is OK most of the time, just not a ton of power. Although, my actual 3 and 4 irons are old Rams from my dad's set. The set I have has a 4 hybrid which goes further for sure, I just need to learn to hit it better. You must really be cutting and lifting across the ball. If you were compacting it with an iron it should go a lot farther than what you are doing today. Just the type of student a teacher would love. Someone who is an athlete and really hasnt begun striking the ball yet.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:03 PM) Let's assume that Brown thought he could run away and that Officer Wilson wasn't going to fire at him, because you don't expect the police to shoot you down from behind if you're unarmed, even if you had confronted him violently 30 seconds ago. Fight or flight response, right? Then you realize he is shooting at you...and that your life might be in danger even. Do you 1) put your hands up and risk being killed surrendering, or 2) charge at the officer, knowing you're unlikely to survive that 35 foot distance against a trained officer with his gun trained on you, also realizing you're not exactly a small or elusive target? Logically, if confronted with this scenario in a simulation, almost nobody would run at the officer and think they're going to survive unless they feel there's no other alternative. As there was reportedly marijuana in his system and not a stimulant, wouldn't that make him LESS likely to fly at the officer from so far away? #1 he should have just gotten out of the street and been respectful from minute 1. The whole "I should fight a police officer" is the wildcard here IMO. Who has that mindset?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:01 PM) There is a difference between the report suggesting something and being consistent with it. The report does not rule out charging, but it doesn't suggest it either. Jesus, sorry teacher.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:58 PM) again, no, it doesn't. The first autopsy is consistent with Brown running forward with his head down. It is also consistent with him being shot in the head as he falls to the ground from the other gun shots. it doesnt but then you agree with me?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:57 PM) Yes, they are. Multiple sources from multiple news agencies. There's tons photographic and video evidence. Why is it so unbelievable that a county SWAT team in military gear would be pretty s***ty at protest peace-keeping operations? Its not unbelievable, but its also not unbelievable that the media is lying about doing "nothing" and then getting gassed.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:55 PM) Even that's not 100% trustworthy if it's taken out of context....or just showing PART of the picture, or it's not continuous footage, etc. We had a debate for a week or so on the Tony Stewart footage, for example. Most of what I;ve seen was live continuous footage. Everything else has been framed so horribly. In today's news world its all about clicks, so who gets it first or has the most ridiculous story wins.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) If Brown was running/moving away and Wilson missed him or just clipped him in the arm after he shouted "Freeze!", then Brown subsequently turned around and charged back towards Wilson, that's a very different scenario. This is what most of the medical report suggests at the moment with what little information we have.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) We're talking about the police overreaction to protesters and media members, not Brown. There's no problem there, sources are consistent on the police overreaction. No, sources are consistent that they did nothing wrong and the police just acted randomly.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:47 PM) Who would you actually trust and believe to accurately report ON THE MEDIA...? Is such a thing possible in this day and age? My own eyes watching live footage, and I've repeatedly seen police trying to ask media members to do something rational like move back 3 feet and they completely ignore it over and over. I saw a camera man basically walk into the path of tear gas last night when warned for around 10 min that it was going to come. I dont trust their words, but I trust their pictures .

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:38 PM) yeah, you have, and google is your friend. you've been provided with multiple other incidents as well. Media reporting on why they did something wrong and were gassed is not a legit source.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:33 PM) you've been provided with multiple sources Not really.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) I totally read that wrong, as I know guys have different grips etc. actually on the club itself. I've been messing around with the grip. For my driver, it's almost a baseball grip, which I know shouldn't be happening, but I've had best results with it. Irons I try to have the overlap, if that's what you call it, try to put the thumb on the top of the grip. Not the interlock. Is interlock better though? I've tried some shots here and there with it, I should experiment more with it. I'm 5'9-5'10, I'm no Rock in terms of height. If I'm 150 out, I'm likely hitting a 3 or 4 iron, and probably not reaching the green. May even hit a 4 hybrid. I need a 2/3 hybrid, or something of the sort, so I can get further when going up the fairway. Even if my weak ass drive goes 175 somewhat straight, I still have a long ways to go on most holes. I'm not reaching it in 2. I have reached in 3 with putts for par here and there, which is exciting (never make them though as they are usually from far out). I also need to measure exactly how long each of my irons go (if hit correctly). I have an idea, but right now I play the ol "looks like a 7" and go and hit it. Man, I bet I could get it to where you could half swing and get it that far. I am an 8 or a 9 iron from 150 with a smooth swing.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:28 PM) That's a lot of assumptions. But, I was reacting literally to your post about "having to be undefeated." Not totally specific to MSU. I just highly doubt 4 teams are undefeated at the end of the year, let alone 3. So, if MSU did win that Oregon game and had only 1 loss, they are probably in that conversation for one of those spots, depending on how it plays out. Maybe not more than 50% chance, but they'll be in the mix for it. Definitely, depending who that loss was to. I still have any undefeated SEC and one loss team automatically IN.

And now the media is gaining attention by showing the other side http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/us/ferguson-....html?hpt=hp_t1

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Based on the videos, and what the Al Jazeera reporters said. ...they were filming a news segment. The reporter was in front of the camera with the 2 big lights on him. Thats simply not enough for me.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:24 PM) If this whole situation was handled appropriately in the beginning, then there wouldn't have been any need for gassing anyone in the first place. Someone who knew the community intimately and had the respect of locals in the first hours after the incident would have done a lot more good than Officer Ron Johnson 3-4 days too late, when the situation was already bordering on being out of control. It has already reached the point where even if Officer Wilson is 100% cleared of wrong-doing or culpability, the story is going to be about the inappropriately militaristic response which totally exacerbated the situation instead of cooling things down, not the situation itself. There's a pretty good reason that every "questionable shooting" doesn't break out into mass rioting/chaos/anarchy/looting in the United States, the famous (or infamous) case of Fruitvale Station in SF being a prime example. So what did those police do so differently? Why didnt the community decide that the cops were wrong and they needed to burn down local businesses?

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) There was no rioting, or even protesting, going on at the time. The police gassed reporters...for being reporters. Based on what info? Why would the cameras be rolling with nothing going on, doesnt make sense.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:08 PM) There was Piaget Crenshaw, who saw the shooting and then got her phone to record the aftermath. I haven't seen anything indicating that she did not see the shooting, and I can't find anything on google. She said she missed 30 seconds of it and only came back to see him laying in the street. It was in her interview. She essentially saw nothing.