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http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky...ark-madden.html

Greg Doyle posted the link on twitter. I can't capture it on my iPad.

Omg. Just heard the rumor of what is supposed to come out and shock people. I hope it's not true. Rumor: Sandusky pimped out those little boys to rich donors. Please don't be true. It will also clarify how he was given retirement in 1999 in exchange for the cover up.

So did Joe report the 2002 incident to the board of the Charity

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 11:26 PM) Also known as peaceful protesting. Sure, said protesting is over a man who did not go above the call of duty to ensure 8 year olds don't get raped, but still, its nit rioting. It is, however, quite stupid. You obviously arent watching TV. They are turning over cars, lightpoles and TV trucks. The police are gassing them. Its a riot.

SBB playing the odds game to validate a guess.

Classy Joe, I appreciate you coming out to speak to the media if only briefly. I truly feel sorry for the man but it had to be done.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) Milkman, Ive looked it up, but thanks for the tip. If Paterno wasnt 84 at worst PSU would suspend him without pay pending an investigation into his actions. It doesnt matter anymore, but had Paterno's superiors followed the law, we wouldnt be having this conversation. It was the superiors who committed the criminal acts. Depends. If the AD told the President he was just following protocol by telling his boss and he could have just thought he followed through. So he shouldnt have lost his job as well right?

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:26 PM) As one of the resident Penn Staters, this is the saddest sports news of my life. I would comment more, but I'm really speechless. I think Sandusky is a monster who should spend the rest of his miserable life in prison, and I absolutely think JoePa should have done more. That doesn't mean I'm not shocked and dismayed by this news. The whole damn thing makes me sad and disgusted. Its awful dude, I feel really bad for you. The fan base, students and players did nothing wrong here and they will face incredible scrutiny and obstacles in the near future. I would say continue to wear your PSU gear with pride, its the only thing you can do.

Someone attacked the ESPN Camera guy. And if getting fired "ruins" Joe Paterno's life then I have no sympathy for the man. At least 8 kids have had their lives ruined by Sandusky, alot worse than just losing a job.

Rioting

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:19 PM) SI_sarahkwakSarah Kwak Just a thought for the PSU students... An 18-year-old college freshman would have been about 9 years old in 2002... Yikes. I feel bad for the PSU students and fans. They had nothing to do with any of this and the simple act of wearing their apparel is going to bring about a negative reaction from almost everyone. PSU is a great institution and this will stick with them for quite awhile.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:17 PM) Rock, What is he going to say? "I wish more kids got raped." If you find out that through your inaction someone got hurt, you are going to feel bad. That doesnt mean he deserves this. Stop posting to me, I dont care what your f***ed up opinion is. You think he did nothing wrong and should have kept his job. Good for you, nice viewpoint, thanks for sharing.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:12 PM) Rock, The only facts that matter are what was said between the assistant and Paterno. None of the rape victims told Paterno, itd be a hell of a lot different if they had. Right, read the facts. Sandusky and Curley said that the GA reported it as horsing around. They also use words such as "not serious", etc. If youve ever read a criminal complaint, it reads as if every allegation is a fact, regardless of whether or not its true. There is a reason why a grand jury indictment is not a conviction, what we are reading is the govts best argument, and even then its not really clear what was said to Paterno. But hey, youre right, thats what you want to hear isnt it? LOL, stop just stop. The guy got rightfully got canned and he admitted he didnt do what he should have. Keep defending the case, even Paterno admits he didnt do what was right.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:10 PM) We are talking about firing the guy, not electrocuting him. He represents a university and coaches/raises 18-21 year old men. He f***ed up in a very bad situation and is facing the consequences years after the fact. Coaches get canned and persecuted for sending f***ing text messages or having backyard BBQ's and we are supposed to make an exception for a guy who turned a blind eye to repeated cases of child molestation? Apparently.

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:06 PM) Yeah, i must have missed the part where he was going to be placed in the electric chair tomorrow. It fairly simple but apologists and apparently defense lawyers want to make it out to be a horrific tragedy that he lost his job. He was the last domino to fall, the President, the AD, the Dept director all lost THEIR jobs from having a role in this, why should Paterno be the only one who keeps his? Because he's old? Come on.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 10:01 PM) Im not even sure what you are trying to say. But I do get that its a lot easier to react to terrible tragedies by wanting to kill everyone as some sort of an attempt to make things right. Unfortunately there is really no correlation. Destroying Paterno wont save more children from being molested, it will just destroy an 84 year old man. I understand the easy answers, I just choose to give the hard but just answer. Or firing a guy because you have grounds for termination. But yeah, continue with your argument counselor. The BOT can even say he violated an NCAA rule to oust him if they wanted:

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 09:52 PM) At a Grand Jury you can present evidence that would not be allowed at trial, such a hearsay evidence from people who never saw the crime, etc. Where in the GJ report was heresay introduced that painted this in a different light? In the interview of all the rape victims, which one of them didnt see the crime? When they interviewed Paterno, Schultz and Curley and their stories differed from the victims, which parts were heresay? You are making statements that are baseless and not related to this case at all just because you can throw some legal bulls*** out there. PSU needed to clean house of EVERYONE that knew about this information and didnt do anything for YEARS. JoePa knew about it when he fired Sandusky and he was then told first hand 4 years later and also didnt call the cops. He could have saved at least 3 or more kids from being molested by a sexual predator. You may be ok with that, but I am glad that the BOT isnt retarded. And I think its been clearly established in College football and college academics that a single mistake, no matter what your history and other contributions may be, will get you axed.

If this was another program and this was NCAA violations instead of child molestation people would be calling for not only firing but the death penalty of the program. What is it about JoePa that makes this such a defensible cover up? Its so strange to see those positions on fb and the like.

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) Gary Harris just b****slapped Purdue. He's a Spartan. Izzo got the call on the deck of the ship they play on Friday. Good decision for him. I would rather play for Izzo than Painter every day of the week.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 09:41 PM) Is there any evidence that Paterno witnessed a crime? Any evidence at all. Im seriously asking because you are all taking a grand jury indictment as fact, when its completely bogus. SO the Grand Jury report is all lies? Do tell. Paterno didnt witness a crime, but he was aware that it occurred, at least twice he was told by people who witnessed it. He and his superiors did NOTHING about it. Thats why they all lost their jobs and for good reason. I wouldnt want people who cannot do the right thing when it comes to crimes against children to represent my organization. Maybe you wouldnt mind it I guess.

Well, one thing is clear, the Board of Trustees acted in the correct way with cleaning house of the people that were at least aware of the information. All except McQueary.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 09:22 PM) The only acceptable outcome is to railroad some one on a grand jury indictment, where they arent even charged with a crime? Where they didnt even see the crime? Where they only heard about it a day after it happened and reported it to their superiors for further investigation? I think there are a lot of other acceptable outcomes and some of them include not rushing to judgment. I personally think Paterno is done as a coach, but to fire him over this is just an excuse to get rid of the guy. If he was 30 years younger and in his prime, this story has a way different outcome. LOL. Right. A guy directly involved in the non-reporting of repeated child molestation should keep his job. Come on, take off your defense lawyer hat and look at the facts. At least 9 kids were raped right under his nose, and he knew about at least 2 instances.