RockRaines

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 05:12 PM) Yeah, but maybe they were just too afraid to call his bluff. I agree though, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to try and cover something up but then give this guy access to the University and the football program. They would have been better off keeping him on as a coach so at least they could account for his whereabouts for half of the day. The is one f***ed up puzzle where we cant see the entire picture yet. Its going to be disturbing as the facts roll out, but I am anxious to see what the f*** these people were thinking.

McQueary tells WR's he's out as coach and in protective custody: http://blog.pennlive.com/davidjones/2011/1...ideouts_he.html

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 05:07 PM) What doesn't make sense is, if they did indeed want to cover this all up, why would they give anything to Sandusky at all? Why not kick him out on the street and disallow all access to the University altogether? Did he threaten to go to the press and incriminate himself and the PSU coverup without these benefits the University gave him? I just can't make any sense of it at all, except that PSU covers this up and Sandusky then blackmails them into giving him access to the campus, and this tug of war goes back and forth until Sandusky finally gets busted for the final time and all the facts come out, exposing everyone. I wouldnt be surprised to see ol Jerry start releasing some dirt he had on those guys. He either blackmailed the s*** out of them or they are genuinely stupid.

Former PSU players donate money to help Jerry Sandusky fund his defense team: http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-n...te_players.html

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 04:41 PM) Mcqueary has also been delivering letters to recruits of other Big Ten schools like OSU and Mich stating that PSU has been scandal free for 45 years. Sent to a Michigan Recruit:

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) Blue Mountain State Aka, the greatest show on TV.

Mcqueary has also been delivering letters to recruits of other Big Ten schools like OSU and Mich stating that PSU has been scandal free for 45 years.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 03:11 PM) Pap to the PHils, 4 years, $50 mil appears done. Wow, what an overpay. Now THATS reckless spending.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 04:06 PM) Gee, whiz, thanks Balta. My point was I want to see someone actually point out that Sandusky is representing PSU and not just out on some perverted trip of his own. Just because he's paying HS kids a visit and asking them to go to PSU doesn't mean he's recruiting for PSU. It was said he was hand delivering letters from Assistant coach McQueary

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/prospect-san...r-in-2011-29898

Im so f***ing ready for tonight.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 03:55 PM) Oh absolutely, the players are not at fault here. Maybe a more fair way to do it is finish the season, let the players have the USC thing where they can transfer without penalty (aka they can play anywhere in 2012), and then not let Penn State have games in 2012. It just....to me, they should lose games for this. That will only happen if there is an NCAA violation and sanctions are brought against PSU. If not, they wont let the kids leave. Already their recruiting class has lost a few players including their top ranked guy. I'm sure it will get worse.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) Should Penn State even be playing Saturday/the rest of this season? I'd honestly lean towards no. I'm not upset that they're playing because it would be unfair to the players on that team that have nothing to do with this to not play. But it just feels wrong, and I hope they lose. I dont think its fair to the kids or the fans, but yeah, I think everyone is going to be rooting for Nebraska. And I know the Big Ten is going to be rooting for PSU not to make it to the title game. More and more details are going to come out. Sandusky also adopted 6 children, was his sexual crimes limited to other people's kids?

I really wish the arguments about your personal beliefs would continue in another thread so actual news can be shared in here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 03:44 PM) Yeah, so he kept Sandusky making official visits with high school kids through 2011. Yeah. Forced into retirement Banned from bringing children on campus 2010 banned from charity because of GJ investigation 2011, represents PSU to prospective football players on recruiting visits.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 03:40 PM) Where did you get that from? edited with link. The defense of Paterno being disconnected from this is crumbling.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 03:16 PM) This thread really needs to die until their is actual news to report. Paterno had Sandusky recruiting for him this entire time including this year. Obviously he disassociated himself from him in 1999 right? Well except for visiting prospective kids. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45246746

QUOTE (beck72 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 08:35 AM) De Aza may turn out OK. I'm just tired of the sox thinking they can go cheap at leadoff ala Pierre, and get by without solid .300 hitters at the top, and stick with the long ball hitters. I know those are hard to come by. But the sox lack guys who can hit for avg. and get on base. Im not sure I would classify Juan Pierre as cheap. De Aza will be our leadoff hitter unless a trade goes down, I'm sure of it.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/s...-college-sports Article on the Sad state of CFB.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 09:31 AM) That's entirely possible, but PSU doesn't need to remove people based on the assumption that will happen. On that one, they have time to wait. I hope for his sake it isnt in 2 weeks when he is still coaching the team through the season. I am anxious to see what is dug up in the coming weeks so PSU can purge their system of everyone.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 09:23 AM) Unless there's involvement on his part from the grand jury report that I have missed, I don't think keeping him on at this point is that big of a mistake. Someone tell me if I missed something, but I haven't seen indications that he was directly informed of the actions in 2002. He might well have been, and if so, PSU ought to take that into account in their upcoming coaching search, and he probably ought to lawyer up. I'm saying as the investigation moves on will we find out the knowledge was quite a bit more widespread.

My question is are we going to find out that the entire staff knew including Tom Bradley, and what is keeping him on going to do for their image.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 09:12 AM) It wouldnt have ended the world. But if these allegations all end up being true, and the last image of JoePa is one of him being carried off the field with everyone cheering him on, The University would look even worse than they do right now. The right thing was to clean house, and I really dont think Curley and McQueary are going to be recieving PSU checks for very much longer, and let the investigation take its course and let the university and football team start to rebuild themselves. They've already started to lose advertisers for the rest of the season.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 06:22 PM) You're lumping together two separate incidents here, I think. I don't think the DA or police were involved at all after 1998. I dont think I have enough information to determine that yet. Its also a question on why when the members of Second Mile found out about this did they not go to the police. Or did they and it took this long? There are so many more pieces of information to gather.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 06:18 PM) Certainly won't disagree with any of this. Thats why the PSU folks and also any negligent law enforcement personnel should lose their jobs at the bare minimum. The DA already lost his life or fled to mexico so he's taken care of.