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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 04:49 PM) Per Cowley's Twitter: Cowley was on the Score a little while ago and among other things said that both Anderson and Wise played hard but "one was playing hard just to be here while the other guy was playing hard so he could be somewhere else and the organization knows this." Another thing he said which shows you how much credibility Cowley has was that defensively speaking Wise isn't that far behind Anderson.

FWIW Cowley was just on WSCR saying the plan is that Quentin will be starting 75% of the time. So expect Wise to be getting a quarter of the starts plus probably coming in late in games as well.

QUOTE (shakes @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 03:06 PM) Ozzie is not the GM. This was Kenny's decision. And the logic isn't that hard to figure out. BA has an option left. If Carlos comes back and aggravates the injury, or if Pods gets dinged up in CF, than Anderson can come back up. It's not likely Wise will get picked up, but he might, or he might refuse his assignment. This is just to have some depth, for the next couple of weeks, to see how things go. This makes sense only if the sox have nothing close to as good as Wise in their minor league system. I find that hard to believe.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 03:01 PM) I guess Ive never seen why Anderson has gotten so much love on this board. He had opportunities, Im not about to cry over a player who hit .200 so far in July. Sure he may be a better defender than Wise, but its not such a disservice that it deserves this much attention. Anderson had a chance to earn his role, he didnt. That leaves it up to the manager to decide, and Ozzie made his choice. I agree Anderson is a pretty lousy hitter. I also agree he had his chances to be a starter and failed. I also agree that he had a chance to earn his role and didn't. But Dewayne Wise has earned nothing and has underperformed Anderson in every category. I agree it's Ozzie's choice to make and he made it. I just don't understand why he chose the inferior of the two choices.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 02:57 PM) I look forward to reading this thread after 2 hours. It will probably have 45 pages of Wise bashing with 3 or 4 comments mentioning the return of Quentin. I just hope that Quentin's foot doesn't bother him to the extent that it robs him of his power. Otherwise he will be a base clogging singles hitter, which is still an improvement over BA/Wise in the lineup.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 02:52 PM) At this point with Q back how often were you expecting Wise/BA to be getting ABs where it ultimately mattered in the grand scheme of things? Almost never, which is my point. You keep the weak hitting above average defender over the even weaker hitting below average defender. There is absolutely no reason to keep Wise over BA at this point. None.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) They probably just wanted a left handed pinch hitter over a right handed pinch hitter. To pinch hit for whom? Great, so we keep a sub .200 hitting crappy fielder around to possibly pinch hit for Nix or Fields on the rare occasions that they're playing?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) Anderson had his chance to hit in June. He didn't. Even I'm not going to bother caring about this decision. Who cares about Anderson's hitting? Wise can't hit either and has actually hit worse than Anderson. The question is defense. They both suck at hitting, and I wouldn't want either one coming in to pinch hit for anyone except maybe each other. But who would yo rather see coming in as a defensive replacement for Q every night, Anderson or Wise?

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 02:10 PM) Wise? Anderson? What's the diff if Quentin, Podsednik, and Dye are playing everyday? Not really a big story here, in my opinion. On a team whose biggest weakness is defense, I think Anderson would be much more valuable as a late inning defensive replacement for Quentin than Dewayne Wise. As for hitting, who is the sub .200 hitting Wise going to pinch hit for anyway?

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 02:11 PM) Like I said...it ain't a good reason. Also, Wise "bats" left handed. If that's what you call it. I know. It's just that I don't even know if it's sad or funny anymore.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 02:07 PM) It's not a good reason, but it's a reason...Anderson has options left, Wise doesn't. Yeah, because you know teams would be lining up to claim Wise off of waivers.

Q will probably platoon with Wise so expect to see Wise get the majority of playing time.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 01:10 PM) Stolen base and error on the throw into CF. Pretty weak effort by Getz in knocking that ball down. Getz sucks in the field.

QUOTE (onedude @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 12:09 PM) Quentin can't get here soon enough. He'll probably wind up platooning with Wise anyway.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 11:58 AM) Ozzie's an idiot? Because KW gives him Anderson and Wise and no other options but Jerry Owens and DeWayne Wise for CF this year? I think you've missed Flash's point. He was talking about Poreda, not the CF situation.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 11:20 AM) Matthew Pouliot doesn't realize that trading Jor Danks and Ramirez will negatively affect the re-signing of Viciedo and John Danks. Good point.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 09:58 AM) When is a decision going to be made to say this guy is ready OR NOT??? I cannot find anything on this site even HINTING when they will even consider bringing him up and it's killing me. Please fill me in guys, are we likely to see him in the Ray's series? Don't expect to see Quentin back up until they can figure out a way to make room for him on the 25 man roster without giving up Dewayne Wise. I don't know whether to use teal or not.

By Dave van Dyck The White Sox had their usual lineup ready for a right-handed pitcher Saturday, as the Orioles sent rookie Brad Bergesen to the mound. Bergesen picked up his first major league victory April 21 against the Sox in Baltimore. The top of the Sox order was the same, with the bottom third of the order scheduled to be Chris Getz, Gordon Beckham and Dewayne Wise. Mark Buerhrle made his first start since pitching a perfect inning in Tuesdayt's All-Star game.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 08:20 AM) *Alex Rios. He's got a full NTC. His contract is low this yr, [$5.9 mill.] and wouldn't cost the sox much additional cash this year, or a huge boatload of talent, esp. from previous years. A good "buy low" possibility. The questions would be 1] if the sox think Rios is worth the $60 some mill. over the next 6 years, and 2] if the sox could swing a deal. I'd be a fan of this, as Rios can play CF, Pods play LF, CQ could play some RF and DH. I always thought Rios was a pretty good ballplayer and I didn't think his contract was that outrageous if he could return to form, which I believe he will. However a couple of posters on this board who seem to be pretty knowledgeable tell me he has character issues and doesn't hustle. That kind of cooled me to the idea of the Sox getting Rios. However, if KW and Ozzie think they can handle him, I'd say go for it.

QUOTE (nastymasty21 @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 05:59 PM) I dont understand what they are doing with CQ. Hes played a weeks plus full of games in the minors. Played 9 innings last night went 2-4, but hes not ready?Obviously hes ready to play in the minors, but not the majors? The way I see it, either shut him down or bring him up. If hes gonna tweak something again it may as well be with the big club and not at a single A game. The soreness is not going away. Ditto.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 10:56 PM) If the Sox acquire Roy, will you quit spelling his last name incorrectly? It's only been spell out correctly about a 1000 times between here and WSI You mean spelled correctly? Also, you should end your sentences with a period.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 10:32 PM) Why in the name of god would they want Richard. They have a lot of starting pitching. If they want a return back for starting pitching its going to be something that projects highly. Like say John Danks. So is Danks + Beckham + Flowers + Hudson + something else about what you want to give up for a 1 1/2 year prayer. Because if you drop that group in, and you don't win it. You have f***ed your franchise for a long time. If this was a Miguel Cabrera type guy, who plays everyday is young and under control sure blast away. But going for a pitcher and Rolen, I don't know if that pushes you over the top. Our pitching is pretty good right now outside of our 5th starter. X player + secondary crap or large numbers of crap isn't going to get this done. Think young major leaguers who project highly, and are under control for a long time. I don't know if they want Richard or anybody else. That's not the point. I was responding to the question whether or not trading Beckham straight up for Halliday would put the Sox in a good position to win the World Series. I said that if the Sox could also get Rolen along with Halliday then trading Beckham and someone other than the Sox top four starters would indeed put the Sox in a good position to win the crappy AL Central and the rotation of Halliday, Buehrle, Danks and Floyd/Contreras would be tough to beat in October. Period. I have no idea if Ricciardi would want Beckham enough to make such a deal or if he would hang up on KW after he stopped laughing. I just responded to the hypothetical situation of trading Beckham for Halliday. And no way would I trade any of the sox top four starters for Halliday. I wouldn't mind including Flowers in a trade for him though. (Not Flowers + Beckham though)

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 10:14 PM) How exactly does adding Halladay equal title. This team has a lot of flaws and is not a single pitcher away from being a title contender. We wouldn't have kids like Beckham starting one year from their draft day on a one player away world series contender. We are a team in transition that might challenge the pirates for worst team if we deck Beckham and some kids for a 1 1/2 year rental. If you could get Rolen along with Halliday for just Beckham, or say Beckham and Richard, you improve at 3B and starting staff. With the improvement from Richard to Halliday and Beckham to Rolen, you can reasonably expect to win the crappy AL Central. In the playoffs, a rotation of Halliday, Buerhle, Danks and either Floyd or Contreras looks mighty tough to beat.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 10:05 PM) i think a deal of Richard, Poreda, Fields, and another prospect would get Halladay. That's 3 young guys who are already at MLB level and an upcoming propsect. That's rumored to be more than what they are looking for. Sold!

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 14, 2009 -> 05:27 PM) Trading Flowers would be a huge mistake. .....Unless they get somebody really good.