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I love that show. It sucks they decided to stop making it.

In their mock they gave the pick to Texas so why not.

At least your open to other opinions. ?

Crap he will haunt the Sox for years to come.

Most say Lacy is the best. I haven't looked at either personall.y

Agreed. I like Abel as a long term project. He has everything you want in an HS pitching prospect. (except maybe being LH)

Nose candy went to my high school as well as Cliff floyd.

They may not have games. Just workouts to get ready for the season.

Keep it up then. It makes as much sense as what these two idiotic groups are doing.

Possibly but being all arm in the MLB usually isn't a recipe for success.

That didn't help that's for sure. But his motion has all the indicators of issues as well.

Sale I really didn't pay much attention to at the draft. In the MLB, the white sox really tried to dial back the "throw hard all the time" because of his elbow issues so I always thought he would have shoulder issues as he aged. when he went to Boston and they turned him loose the elbow went. Rodon, I said from when they drafted him he was going to have injury and control issues due to his straight up motion and lack of trunk flexion on follow through. Aiken was a wild card once they did the MRI pre-draft and found he had the abnormal UCL. It was almost guaranteed he was going to issues. It was just a question on how he would do after surgery.

There are some significant risk factors for health in pitchers. #1 is previous missed time due to an injury. #2 is consistent velocity #3 is mechanics. He unfortunately has all 3. Not to say he will be injured as it's impossible to exactly predict it but he does have a higher risk than most.

Welcome to union negotiations. Nothing happens until midnight.

That would be nice. Unfortunately, those guys don't exist toward the end of the first round. Players always surprise in the minors but for drafting it just isn't feasible.

They players you mentioned are neither. They were high ceiling, high risk players that you find at the bottom of the first round.

Of course it is. That gap is narrower at the top of the draft but is significantly wider at the end of the first round. By the time you get to the end of the first round, I would take the higher ceiling vs. the higher floor. Some years the Sox did that, other years they took the higher floor.

Of course but these players were all drafted between 25-29. You are talking about a high ceiling high risk player today at 11. When they were drafting in the high 20's there aren't many players that fit your description. There aren't many players that fit your description in the high 20's.

But those are the guys with the high ceiling. Fields had big power. Poreda had electric stuff. Mitchell had awesome athleticism.

I guess. Taking upside guys with flaws doesn't define "safe" for me. Safe is guys with few flaws but minimal high end talent. Floor vs. ceiling guys.

That's almost half being the exception though. They may have had some "safe" picks but it's not like it was for an extended period of time.

I wouldn't call Fields, Gonzalez or Mitchell safe picks at all.

Not saying don't take him. I would prefer one of the HS guys though. Bitsko or Abel. The draft in general is a crapshoot and all have their flaws. My personal bias with pitchers is to look at the ones that have the best chance of staying healthy. You can't teach high end stuff though.

Abel has a much cleaner projectable motion. He will also mature and increase is velocity.

The issues I have with him are 1. He hasn't thrown many innings, some due to injury. 2. He throws from a low 3/4 angle and spins during his follow through. This is part of the reason for his deception but also the reason for the inconsistencies and shoulder issues. He'll need to straighten out a little at least and what will that do to his pitches?