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QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 12:13 PM) At Sox fest, that jag Ed Famer hosted the forum with the players and their wives. Rowand said that no one sleeps more than Crede, until Farmer said that Jon Garland sleeps more. Interestingly, if I had to guess which two players would sleep the most on the team, it would have been Crede and Garland. They just have that lazt, passive air about themselves. Whether that relates to the field is another thing, but it sure comes across that way. WTF does sleeping have to do with an athlete's performance? Mario Lemieux is known to take naps during the day. Does that mean that he doesn't get it done on the ice? And what's your beef with Farmer?

Please don't tell me that the Dodd Center is named after Chris Dodd. :puke

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) That'll be his problem....I guess he should have thought of that before swallowing 9 year old sausage. Agreed that he doesn't deserve preferential treatment because he's an effeminate millionaire. That said, he'll probably get it anyway.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) That sick f*** shouldn't get the death penalty when found guilty, he should be put into a regular prison. Putting Jacko into a "regular prison" would be a death sentence. He wouldn't last a month.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) We've only played 3 games. He's batting for a higher average than Rowand. You can't tell much yet. True, but we can also look at his previous two years' stats and conclude that he's probably not going to suddenly morph into a .300 hitter this season. This is Crede's make-or-break year. He needs to step up and show us all something very soon.

QUOTE(winodj @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) The last time I checked, Senators don't oversee construction projects. The last time I checked, Kennedy succssfully lobbied for a significant amount of FEDERAL money for that project, knowing full well that the 560% budget increase was due to corruption.

My then-girlfriend (now wife) got mono a few years ago and, somehow, I never showed any symptoms. And I'm pretty sure that I was infected with the virus, if ya know what I mean.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) To answer your question, or should I more accurately say give you a resource, check the local Barnes and Noble for a book by Richard Lindberg which is titled something to the effect of, "Stealing First: 2nd Team in a Two Team City". It will be with all the baseball books. Lindberg is one of the most prominent White Sox historians alive ... maybe the foremost. In there, he outlines Veeck's efforts to sell the team, Reinsdorf and Einhorn, and much more. It's a very interesting read. In addition, if you care, there is an entire chapter devoted to the Chicago Cardinals NFL team (now AZ Cardinals) and the factors that caused them to leave town for St. Louis. That book will give you an excellent historical background. Suffice it to say that all of those guys listed on the board of directors are huge money guys, and there are other investors not on the board who are also huge money guys ... big time insurance guys, owners of law firms, real estate guys, etc. There are many more investors than are shown on the board of directors list on the White Sox site. Simply put, when people say "Reinsdorf should just sell", it isn't that simple. He is extremely influential with the entire board, as is Einhorn, but it's run like a corporation with directors. One guy doesn't have full say so ... it's much more complicated. Thank you. I will definitely check it out.

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 10:46 AM) Lots of people know.. just have to ask the right people. Like this guy? QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 10:44 AM) Just thought I'd throw something positive in, since being a Sox fan means you are born cynical, skeptical, crabby, jealous, and basically the only team you hate more than the Cubs or any other team, is the Sox themselves.

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) Don't you have this saved somewhere on your hard drive...???? Real short version... Jerry and Eddie gathered up a bunch of folks with a lot more money than them.. got them to give it to them... bought the Sox with it.. and for whatever reason they (the richer guys) named Jerry Chairman which affords him all the headaches and blame for the Sox not doing squat for the past 20 years.. So, do we know this for a fact or is it just speculation? I'm not challenging the validity of this, but am just curious, as it seems like nobody really knows. Is there any documentation of the purchase from Veeck that corroborates this story?

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 10:04 AM) They never were.. I just assumed that they were, at least at one point, majority owners since they purchased the team. Can somebody tell me who is now? I realize that they have a board of directors, but some have to have more financial stake than others.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 11:44 PM) kinda off subject: was told (never watch, his mannerisms annoy me) o'reilly was talking about ward churchill tonight. and he asked where he graduated from college. turns out it was my school. i'm sooo honored. The worst part about Churchill is that he only has a Master's degree and somehow not only became a fully-tenured professor at a Big 12 school, but also served as a department head. IMO, he's not even qualified to be an assistant professor. QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 07:24 AM) This really is an extension of the attempts to first discredit Bush, then Chaney, and now the Hammer. Notice they are all Texans. Notice they aren't digging up stuff on Hastert who I am certain must have a couple skeletons in his closet. Oh wait, he's from Illinois. There's some truth to that. I can't remember hearing much criticism from the media towards Ted Kennedy and John Kerry after the massive fraud in the Big Dig project happened on their watch. The media is much less inclined to go after liberals from Taxachusetts.

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 09:56 AM) Jerry and Eddie are not even close to being the majority holders... and when I say not even close.... I mean not even close. My bad. Thought they still were. Then who is now?

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 08:49 PM) And you jumped to that conclusion after only 3 games. At least give him a month, before you start ragging on him. Why? He's completely blown for the past two years, so why should this year be any different? Crede needs to prove that he doesn't suck.

QUOTE(trexer @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Well, this certainly contradicts everything that the "spend it and they will come" crowd has been telling us. The Sox payroll is roughly double what it was in 2000, yet the attendance figures are still horrible. The simple fact is that the South Side is not a good place to have a baseball team so much so that once Reinsdorf no longer has anything to do with the team, it will likely wind up somewhere else, such as Indianapolis, where the metropolitan area is smaller than Chicago, but the fans are far more appreciative/supportive than on the South Side. Also, this sort of thing has been going on for more than a decade before Reinsdorf ever bought the team, so its isn't his fault. No, Sox attendance was actually higher than Cubs attendance before Jerry and Eddie decided to move the telecasts to their proprietary cable channel and, subsequently, forced Harry Caray out the door. Then Harry went up to the North Side, the Cubs went on WGN, and the rest is history. Sox attendance recovered in the early '90s, the season ticket holder base was cut in half after The Strike and the White Flag Trade, and attendance has been slowly climbing upwards since. Reinsdorf and Einhorn selling off their majority ownership of the Sox probably won't do much good now, as the damage has already been done (although it may be a good pre-emptive measure to preclude further front office stupidity). And, as SSider pointed out, the Sox re-signed their lease at UCSF, so they're not going anywhere. The Sox will be able to survive on the South Side and draw 2 million/year as long as they don't do anything stupid in the near future. The last few years' worth of rennovations have significantly changed the park from the "ballmall" to, IMO, one of the nicer stadiums in the league and will help as well. I'll take a couple minutes here to debunk the Indianapolis theory: I live right outsie the city and can tell you first-hand that it's NOT a good sports market. The city is relatively large (780k), but the suburban area is VERY small (maybe 500k). In all directions but north, you're in the cornfields almost immediately after you leave the city limits. In comparison, Chicago is 2.9 million and the metro area is 8 million combined. So, the populations difference is enormous. The Pacers have survived because Indiana is a basketball-crazy state and, the fact that they've been in the playoffs since the mid-'90s, guys like Reggie Miller and Jermaine O'Neal, and the return of Larry Bird (who walks on water out here). The Colts, on the other hand, are a different story. They were a complete joke during their first 10 years here. Even in the late '90s, when they actually started drafting great players and winning, there was constant talk of them moving to LA. It took five playoff appearances, three division titles, two AFC Championship games, and the greatest season-long QB performance in NFL history to get the city to agree to partially finance new stadium (this isn't Chicago, where the city and state pay for everything). And it wasn't until earlier this week that the Senate approved funding. Given what a difficult time the Colts have had, I don't see a baseball team surviving here. Given all of the taxpayer money that has gone/will go into new stadiums for the Pacers and Colts, it'll be at least another 15 years before the taxpayers will even want to fund a ballpark for the Indianapolis Sox.

- I'll take two out of three any day, even against a "lesser" team like the Indians (who are underrated). Even through we blew it in the 9th today, we should've lost yesterday's game. - The top three in the rotation look pretty good thus far. That alone is reason enough to be optimistic about this squad. - Despite today's meltodown, the long relief looks encouraging overall. - And speaking of meltdowns, I'm interested to see how Shingo does this year. Of course, he was a stud in Japan and was very good last season... but I'm wondering if AL hitters will catch up with him a bit this season. And he is 37 now, which may or may not be a factor. That said, it's still WAY too early to panic. Hell, even Foulke went into month-long slumps from '00-'02. Shingo had a great outing on Monday and has even had a better week than Rivera. - This offense is going to struggle a bit until Frank gets back into the lineup. When he does, though, they should be able to avearge 5 or 6 runs per game. And Everett will be the most feared pinch hitter in the league. - Having A.J. and Tad in the lineup is a welcomed change over rally-killers like Ben Davis and Willie Harris.

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 03:08 PM) Man I have never liked Shingo as the closer.. I just dont like having a soft tosser as the closer.. I dont feel comfortable when he comes in I'd be more worried about his age than his velocity. That said, I won't be worried until he sucks for an extended period of time. Hell, even Foulke would have bad months back in the day.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 02:59 PM) Another HR given up by Shingo I hope this is more the result of him getting squeezed than his 37-year-old arm.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) Anyone wanna fill me in on Contreras' day? Didn't see the game on TV, but he did pretty well overall (6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 4 K). Probably could've pitched the 7th if they would've let him.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 02:42 PM) Bobby "Gascan" Howry had a nice season last year. So THAT'S where he ended up.

Wow, that's completely screwed up. And I thought that they were just exaggerating in Friday Night Lights. Hopefully he'll be apprehended before he does more damage.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) Cotts is in? Yeah, I thought that was interesting as well. Contreras couldn't throw another 20 pitches? And didn't Cotts pitch yesterday?

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 01:47 PM) Why would you want to blow a 9 year old...how sick. Prison's going to be rough for this f***. They'll probably kill him. They hate child molesters. Actually, he'll probably be so isolated from the other prisoners. Too bad. Is it even possible for a 9-year-old to get an erection? Or did Jacko have to slip him some Viagra? How disgusting...

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 01:43 PM) when were they completely un-fudged? Yeah, I didn't realize that someone actually gave them a chance this year.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Halfway home, the game is now official Is it raining up there as well? Bad enough to call the game?