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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:41 AM) YIPPIE SKIPPY!!! Yet another cry fest about what we're supposedly doing wrong in Iraq. You gotta love how some people just simply dont care that all the violence and mayhem is being perpetrated by Al Quada, no, we gotta hear left and right around here how some detainees got beat up or how some contractors allegedly took a shot at some civillians because everyone knows that thats the REAL problem over there. Theres a big reason why troops come home and are stunned and hurt at all the negativity spewed out by the left and the leftist media over the Iraq war. I love how you people just put the blinders and tin foil hats on and just zero in on every negative thing you can possibly find yet universally ignore all the good that is being done over there. Get used to it Nuke. Some things are perpetual.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:15 AM) The White Sox won't deal with Scott Boras, that's all you need to know. All I need to know is who would play 3rd base. That's a ridiculous trade proposal.

So, we've got one source saying the O's offer the most money at 5years, $60M and another saying the Angels offered $65M.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 09:57 PM) Koch didn't lose velocity because of age. it was all mental with him. either way, 10+ million for a reliever, someone who only comes in when your team has the lead? whatever, Mets will still suck. Whatever the reason, he suddenly lost his velocity.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) Government run factories. Nice idea comrade. I'd settle for giving them a shovel and having a canal dug from the Mississippi to the Pacific Ocean.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) See Roger Clemens. Granted Wagner will not always have a 100 mph fastball, but even if he declines, I am sure he will still be throwing mid-90's in a couple of years. The last year will probably bite the Mets. I am sure this offer went up a couple of million after that horrible Ryan deal. Also, this is topic was also posted in the "Around the Horn" forum: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=43663 See Billy Koch.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 06:10 PM) I don't think he was low balled ( ). The Sox made a fair offer, the Mets made him the highest paid third baseman at the time. I think the Sox turned out right because I don't think Ventura ever played like it. That being said he is one of my top three favorite Sox players of all time. The Sox offer to Ventura was insulting.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) This is from a team that was supposed to stink up the joint this season. I think Im just gonna enjoy the ride and see where it goes. That'll be my approach as well. This year is just gravy.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) The Cubs have abou $30 million or so to spend in the worst FA market I can remember, and they are doing everything they can to spend it. Hopefully they will waste all of their flexibility too. It's a good thing there's no pressure on the Cubs.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 12:59 PM) Yes, I wouldn't expect Konerko to leave that much on the table either. But let's say that the Angels and Chisox come up like $4 million apart? What would you say then? Like we offer $12 million over 4 and the Angels offer $13 million over 4? I think that Konerko would actually be better off taking the Chicago deal - he'd have far better options for endorsements in the city where he won a ring than he would in Anaheim, where Scoscia and Guerrero have already dug in their nails. Especially without a Sosa on the north side any more. I'd say that there are other things a man has to take into consideration. If it was that important for PK to be near his home, then so be it. The Angels are a good organization. There are a lot more circumstances that a guy has to consider than just public perception.

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) looks interesting.... kinda sucks it will only be the World Series games though and not the entire playoffs like we had hoped. thank you tivo Ummm .. it's a World Series video, not a post season video.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Carl Everett sucked in CF for the Sox in '03. If you think otherwise, I've got some great ocean front property in Arizona for sale.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) he did well in 2003 in Center Field. No. He sucked in CF in 2003.

I can't blame Konerko one iota for testing the waters to see what his value is. And let's say the Angels do offer him $15M per for 5 years and the Sox offer $13 per for 4 with an option on the 5th year, I don't think Paulie's a bad guy for taking the Angels offer. The difference in guaranteed money is $23M. Does anyone really expect a guy to leave that much money on the table for the sake of loyalty? It's a business, too. Just like when Kenny Williams couldn't consider the 'loyalty' issue when he traded Rowand.

did God create aliens?

QUOTE(JimH @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 09:38 AM) I did not see where KW said he wasn't interested in Pierre. I wasn't KW that said that. If I remember correctly, it was a columnist (Gregor, maybe?).

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 09:34 AM) The Texans. Wow. Has there been another team that has tried so hard to lose? I know it was the Texans. But the kid got thrown into the fire and from the back from, I think, 21 points down. Of course, Holt and Bruce had something to do with that.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, rookie Ram QB, 3rd stringer, from Harvard! takes his 1st NFL snap then proceeds to lead the Rams to come from behind victory over the Texans. Going 19 - 30, 310 yards. 3 TD's 1 pick and passer rating of 117.4 Kyle Who?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 07:40 AM) There aren't too many companies left that could manage the contract. It's all part of being competitive. People would point to a $150 uniform and point out how wasteful it is when they could be made for $95 in Mexico. Keep in mind that until a couple years ago, you could walk into a Military Surplus store and buy a uniform for cheap along with many of the accouterments. So, we keep giving handouts to the poor when our Government could put them to work instead of shipping the jobs to another country. Yep. That makes sense to me. :headshake

Congrats!

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) And just how did you "benefit" during the Clinton years? The answer should be it didn't change. Presidents have very little about how YOU benefit. It's what you do with YOURSELF that effects how you benefit, or don't. That's my problem with people like you. Whine, piss and moan about s***... what ever happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Personal responsibility and accountability? From the left?

Of course it's not the same as a win on the field. The fact remains that it is part of the equation. From available information such as things said by KW and others in the Sox hierarchy, and the past history of JR's handling on the payroll vs. the previous seasons profit/losds margin, we have a ballpark figure of what the budget will probably be. Given that approximate figure, and the known salaries of Sox players, it's not harde to speculate on the value of another player's contract and his comparative value to the team.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 07:21 AM) As long as it isn't a political post you are agreeing with. I don't want Kerry to stop sending me emails. That would be the saddest breakup I know your not all that keen on the Kerry emails. You're hoping he introduces you to Hanoi Jane.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 07:16 AM) And embarrassing as this is to admit, I have never understood it. Plus, I have never known what people are thinking until I ask them. But YAS, I am certain you know what I am thinking now. LOL. Touche'.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 06:44 AM) Wow, I have to agree, YAS, this is one of the few SL&P posts of *yours* in which I am in total agreement. Jim did nail it. I am hearing Paul Simon singing . . . still bitter after all these years . . .. In reality I'll bet Jim has let go, the family seems like a huge upgrade. I really enjoyed your post in the 'grilled cheese sandwich' thread. That's all I'm giving you though.