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QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:35 PM) So the chances of getting him are what? 1%? Slim and none. Slim just left town.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) ok thanks Yas! That's kinda what I thought.... It is a huge risk for a team to take cause they most likely will be taking on his WHOLE contract. Which is a gamble the Sox would not have to take, since they will have the LAST claim opportunity on him ... However, if the Sox fail to place the claim, he could be traded to any team.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) Im still kinda confused. So Boston can claim him and then if a trade doesn't get worked out...they can say forget it and then nobpody gets him??? or is it if a trade doesn't get worked out wither way Boston gets griffey and has to take on his whole contract? That's up to Cinci. They can let him and his contract go, or revoke the waivers and pull him back.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) Yeah I mean the best hitter in the franchise's history just got hurt, why would KW try to replace him with one of the greatest powerhitters in our generation... :headshake To say nothing of the fact that he would be the LH power hitter we have needed for 5 years.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) As far as I know Griffey is on a muti year contract. The $14 million I was writing about was not for 1 season. I'm sure with all the deferred payments and such, there is a some closer to $50 million left on the contract. A team claiming him on waivers and being awarded him would be resposible for the balance of the contract without the Reds contributing a dime. Ok. You were talking life of the contract, we were talking per year. We're good.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) What exactly is a minor concern? If Oakland makes the playoffs, we will have to face them. Big deal, we will have to face many tough opponents on the way to a WS ring. Home field? Give me a break. I would rather NOT have home field advantage since we are a better road team anyway. Buehrle and Garland should have thrown the All Star game!

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:05 PM) I know the Yankees history, but if they had so much money, why wouldn't they have put together a cash and players deal for the cashpoor Marlins, AJ Burnett? Their actions at this deadline don't fit their history at all, and I think there is a reason for it. I think they are finally at their spending limit. I agree with you, but I can see King George saying "Get Griffey!" They just failed to pick up Bernie's $15M option for next season.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) Its more than $14 million. From the first post in this thread...

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Not with waivers. If Cincy lets him go, he is gone. Honestly I don't think either team has the money for him, especially the Yankees. Even with all of the pitching problems they had, they weren't even RUMORED to be involved in anything. I really believe that Griffey could have shot down even a straight waiver claim.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) Would Griffey's no-trade play any part in this though? I would assume that if he was claimed, and the claiming team could not get Griffey to waive his no-trade, the Reds would have to revoke waivers.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) I'd be thrilled with this move. Burroughs will never develop into the player the Pads thought he was, but he's still capable of turning into a good role player and could still turn into an average 3rd baseman. Not a bad insurance plan, especially since Borch will be leaving the org at the end of the year. Very interesting on the Griffey front. Giving up Young would of sucked, but I think I'd of made that deal, especially since they were getting a decent portion of the contract paid. Who knows, it could still happen. Now that this is out, I don't think NY or Boston would let Griffey get through waivers.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) Lets get it on! Don't get your hopes up. This is nothing more than a minor disagreement. I'm done. I respect Steff too much to get into a knock down drag out with her.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) Yea.. I think that was ignorant. JMO though.. don't mind me. Think whatever you want to think. I'll do the same.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:41 AM) Nice.. :headshake Problem?

QUOTE(GBlum27 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:38 AM) People that ripped KW for no impact moves should seriously STFU There is no way in hell KW was sitting on his hands at the dealine. Anybody that believes has a picture next to the word idiot in the dictionary.

This, I believe, is bigger news than a trade that didn't happen. I hope to hell that this is not the case.

Rowand defintely called this. I was going to give him props but see it's already been done. Good call, Rowand.

OK Steff, what ever you say.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) Ryan Franklin was not afforded the courtesy of his test results remaining secret until an appeal, if he chose or chooses to file one, were heard. I believe you are mistaken about that. I'm not dead sure, but I think he has also had an appeal.

They couldn't ignore his 3000th hit and they couldn't suspend him until the procedure had run it's course. What choice did MLB have?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) I didnt, and this looking over our shoulders crap is getting extremely old. I have a feeling that half the people on this site are miserable that we are so good. There is almost nothing to b**** about. One loss and the sky is falling, one bad outing by Jon in his last several, and he has a dead arm. Give me a break. I get tired of that too, but I really didn't take this thread that way. You're right though, we can't expect things to be any better than they are and more people should be just enjoying what has so far been a very magical season on the southside.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) This may seem ridiculous, and it probably is, but Oakland is 9 back of the Sox. In recent years, they have often gotten really hot in the second half and just not let up. They are doing it again. Do you think there is any remote concern they could catch them if they win 40-45 of their remaining 56 games and the Sox play .500? Where did you say that?????? If the sky is falling I will use you as an umbrella. Strange, but I knew exactly what he was talking about.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 07:15 AM) Will you please give it up? Shingo is not coming back. Hell, I'm still waiting for Robin Ventura to come back.

QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 05:53 AM) Steroids are not illegal or they wouldn't sell them in pharmacies. They are used for a variety of things including recovering from cancer treatments. They can also be used in hormonal replacement. Google something besides naked women occasionally, huh fellas? Ok ... without a prescription from your doctor. Your point is made, FWIW.