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QUOTE(forrestg @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:45 PM) I think some things are better explained in sarcastic tone. Makes people think more. Work on that.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:38 PM) The UNITED Nations WE should just let them build that new UN building in Montreal or something. Get their asses out of NY.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:38 PM) With Franklin's steroid suspension, people (like Rotoworld) are speculating that top prospect Felix Hernandez will start now in his place. When was Ryan Franklin's next start? This friday against the White Sox. So, now we might be the first team in the majors to face the best pitching prospect since Gooden. Any thoughts? Yep! RIP 'EM!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:29 PM) :finger LOL

QUOTE(soxhawks @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:29 PM) i didnt hear that i do think it is a good idea though Greenie's main point was that Palmeiro was saying that he 'couldn't" elaborate on the details, yet the rules about divulging that type of info are in place only to protect the player. Then he had some lawyer on there that said there is nothing preventing RP from standing up and saying exactly what happened ... other than Raffy himself.

QUOTE(soxhawks @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:25 PM) that's a good question, i also wish someone would ask palmeiro to see exactly what he is taking, and if it is something on the bottle from gnc then we know it was that if he doesnt have anything like that we know he is full of s*** Mike Greenberg was singing that song on the radio this morning.

QUOTE(forrestg @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) Is that sarcasm? No more than your post was.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) He throws strikes and has playoff experience. If the Sox brass can determine whether his arm has anything left, I wouldn't mind seeing him in the bullpen. The Twins tried signing a Seattle cast off. How'd that work out?

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:15 PM) Yah, I think these are pretty specific tests. What these tests are looking for, I don't think you can get out of something you bought at a GNC. I may be wrong though. I'd bet there's stuff you can buy at Walgreen's that would get you. But these guys make oodles and gobs of money and have every resource available to them. No excuses.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:14 PM) That's just my opinion. It might not follow the exact definition of cheating, but my definition is a little more loose. From the way he said it, it sounds like he continues using them for a while. I'll say it's loose. It's also totally moronic. But hey, to each his own.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:08 PM) Bullard's numbers have improved greatly in the last month or so with him shaving about 4 runs per game off of his ERA in the month of July. His whole month statistics including the start Bull made on July 3rd showed him with an era of 2.38 with 10 hits given up covering 11 1/3 IP. Exploring his numbers since Jim moved back to the pen, Bull has 6 scoreless appearences covering 6 IP, 0ER, 4H, 3BB, and 3K. Small sample size! Selective stats! Keep it up, Bull. We're all pulling for ya!

QUOTE(forrestg @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:13 PM) I like the idea of adding Borchard he can't field and can't hit for average but if he gets the right pitch he can set the record for longest home run is that a plus or what. Just like your posts are a plus.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) Then so far, only seven major leaguers have broken the steroid rule. All the others that we speculate/know about did so before the rules were in place. Ok .. let me rephrase that. How can you break a law before that doesn't exist?

QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) Steroids aren't the only answer for players getting busted by the new policy. For Bears fans, I'm sure you all remember Jim Miller getting suspended 4 games for violating the NFL's substance abuse program. He never took steroids, but there was a banned substance in the suppliment he was taking that made him fail the drug test. I'm not sure about what substances are banned by major league baseball, but I'd say that there's a good possibility that Palmiero and Franklin could have a similar case as Jim Miller. Palmeiro admitted that it was a steroid. He just "didn't know" how it got into his body.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:06 PM) I'd like to believe he didn't use them, too. But then I'd just be a hypocrite. If he was on steroids, which he seems to have been, he's a cheater in my eyes whether he knew it or not. Now I totally disagree with that. How can you break a rule that doesn't exist at the time?

QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) And it's time everyone else learned that QUANTITY does not equate with QUALITY. After that post, welcome to Soxtalk!!!!!!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) I'm still sitting here hoping that through all this, with the exception of 1 or 2 notable guys who are no longer with our team, the guys who make up our roster have seemed to be clean to me. If nothing else...there was at least 1 big presence in our locker room the past decade who was quite outspoken against their use. Let's hope his presence was/is enough.

I'll tell you what .. the very last thing we need is for this to happen to a Sox player. Don't be too smug about this issue.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) I didn't say that Mantle was an outright cheater. All I said is that there might be a good chance he used steroids. He could've been cheating without even knowing it. I wasn't trying to imply that you were saying that. I'm just pointing out that it was an entirely different era when a lot of things know today weren't known then. I'm still inclined to believe his strong wrists and hands came from him growing up having to milk cows everyday. But that's just me.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 12:51 PM) Like I said, my boss told me this story and he was told by his friend who supposedly knows a lot about it. I have no idea what he was taking or anything, but the steroid could help him, whether or not it was prescribed by a doctor. Sure it could. We know that now.

I'd rather bet on Adkins, who, by the way, probably won't be near the playoff roster.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) Yeah, I've always heard that if he didn't go the way of music, he could have gone the way of pro-golf. Problem was, I believe he spent too much time with the bottle and as "Alice" to have actually thought about golf in those days. From all I have heard though, he is the one "celebrity golfer" that many of the real golfers take seriously. Yep. Cooper and the bottle were very close friends at one point. That led to his "From The Inside" album.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) That's true. I don't know why he said anything, to tell the truth. I'll have to ask my boss about more details. It might be a while, though, since he's usually busy or downtown. When Mantle was a teen, they didn't know a helluva lot about steroids. And, from your story, if he was on them they were prescribed by a doctor.

I really wish I could make it to this game, but I don't see it happening.