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QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 02:08 AM) Here is Marte..... strike, strike, ball, ball, ball, ball That sounds like Giambi's at bat.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 02:08 AM) Yas... don't even bother wasting your time. I wasn't willing to waste much of it, I assure you of that.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 11:00 PM) Im guessing there has to be some sort of visual evidence of this kid jumping if they want to charge him with it. Im glad Pods didnt have to get punched in the face this time to make the #1 play. They have about 40,000 potential witnesses.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 01:14 AM) Here's all I want to ask... Most everyone here has given up on Joe Borchard. Can anyone here raise their hand and say "I would rather have Timo on this team than a struggling Borchard" and then tell me why? Not me. I haven't given up on Borchard yet.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 01:05 AM) :headshake You may think something else is funny that I do not see amusing at all...you're ignorant! Good comeback!

QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) If we bring him up he has to stay up cause he's got no more options. Not exactly correct. His last option was used when he was sent down after ST. However, that option remains in effect all year and he can be brought up and sent down as much as we want to.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 12:57 AM) The kid was a dumbass. He jumped off the Upper Deck to see if the net would hold his weight. I am probably around his age and I would never even consider doing such a stupid thing. Just because I think that it is funny he is a dumbass, I am ignorant? Wow. :rolly You have grasped the concept quite well.

Now that you guys have ranted without taking all possibilities into consideration, let me point out to you that Hermanson's back is acting up again and Ozzie was trying to get by without using him.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 12:44 AM) .............so? So .... I don't see how you can claim you were right. Thinking that someone falling or jumping and risking injury to himself and others is funny does prove one thing .... ignorance.

QUOTE(soxhawks @ Aug 4, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) this is just typical cub behavior, sosa is the heart and soul of your organization for a long time, he has one bad season they continuosly boo him and run him out of town. i just dont know how how you could turn on someone who jump started that orginaztion He didn't make them all feel good Cubby happy any more.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 09:44 PM) Thanks to the anti-trust agreement... yes, it is their business I would say. Baseball screwed themselves by not doing something more and doing it sooner. As for your question will them stopping the pro's from doing it help stop the kids from doing them... maybe ask the parents of the kid who killed himself because he wanted to be like his hero Mark McGwire and started taking roids when he was 15... If you are talking about that father that appeared before Congress with the players on March 17th, that was Burt Hooten's brother.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) Nah, not our 4th starter either, not sure why I exactly said that but at this point of his career I think Mark and Jon are better then him, jmo. He's been pretty dominant this year. I'd love to have him pitch game one of any playoff series. Except the Yankees since they're his daddy.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 05:42 PM) National League. He had a 3.9 era last year in the al, while still very good, I just don't think he's the same pitcher he used to be and not worth the money, jmo. Not worth the money? Maybe. Sox #4 starter? Nope, he'd probably be number 1.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) FRank better be put on the 60-day DL and Anderson brought up before the end of the month, or I'm going to be really f***ing pissed. Maybe Anderson will be promoted after the Knight's season, but I doubt prior to then.

QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) thanks, but I wasnt talking to you If you think I didn't know what teams to look for to prove my point, you are sadly mistaken. Your point has been effectively quashed by Steff's excellent research and post. Now, what was it you were saying about shutting your mouth?

QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 03:58 PM) Hey Peter Gammons since you are so up on baseball history, Why dont recall one instance when a team has choked away a 13 game lead past Aug 8th and I will apologize for this thread and shut my mouth about it from here on I didn't get THAT specific with my post. I talked about big leads being choked away. I'll throw this one at you though. On the morning of September 21, 1964, the St. Louis Cardinals trailed the Phillies by 6.5 games. That is exactly one half of the 13 games you asked about, but the lead was chocked away in maybe 2 weeks, not 7 or 8 like the Sox would have to do. The point being that this type of thing has happened before, and it very well could happen again. EDIT: I should have read the entire thread before posting this. Thanks, Steff, for saving me a lot of research to get the specifics.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) There are all kinds of stories and theories out there. People here would be well served to not accept any one theory as the sole cause. But this is Soxtalk and SOMEBODY HAS TO BE BLAMED! It's a matter of principle.

It's way too soon to think about playoff rotations at this point. So many things can happen between now and then, including trades and/or injuries.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 01:03 AM) I still look at the standings and the Twins/Indians scores everyday, even though we're 72-39 and 12.5 up. I won't be celebrating anything until we clinch the division. But seriously, it's just cynical to beat the "it can happen, we're bound to go through a tough stretch and fall enough to make the division close" line to death. Can it happen? Sure. Will it happen? No. I can't see how anybody can be so sure of that. I'll go so far as saying ... Will it happen? Probably not. But damn, I've seen it happen several times over my many years as a baseball fan.

Again. Every game is not a must win. The players on the fiels have to approach it to try and win, of course. But, it's what happens over the long haul that counts, at least till playoff time or the stretch drive, if necessary.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) If the sox don't win the division I will eat a car. Whatever. We have not won this division yet. We should. That is no guarentee that we will.

QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 10:58 AM) No you're right it wouldnt be that hard.........it would be IMPOSSIBLE if the Sox ONLY go .500 from here, Cleveland would have to go 38-12 the rest of the way. Good luck if they could pull that one off No, it wouldn't be impossible. Are some of you not familiar with the history of baseball and some of the big leads that have been choked away? It has happened before and it WILL happen again. Hopefully, not in 2005.

QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) Would there be day games for the playoffs at all? Freddy would be better in a day game, I think. Yes there will be. In 2000, we played 3 day games while the networks showed the NYY in prime time.

1. A 1983 game vs The Red Sox. Greg Luzinski hit a rooftop shot off of Oil Can Boyd. Baines and Fisk also homered in that game iirc. 2. The thumping the Sox put on the Cubs in the fisrt game of the series at the Cell this year. I was hoarse for 3 days. 3. A game agains the woeful Tigers in May 2003 after they had beat us the first 2 games of the series including a 1-0 loss by Garland. Carlos hit a slam, Konerko made a great play at first to save a run in extra innings and Crede hit a walk off to win it. 4. Not sure of the year, but Dick Allen hit one on a line the bounced off the brick wall in the back of the center field bullpen (440 feet) that bounced back onto the field. Hardest ball I've ever seen hit. 5. I was able to take my young sons to their olny visit to the old ballpark in Sept '90 vs the Royals. They got Jeff Montgomery's autograph, which thrilled the hell out of them and Bobby Thigpen broke the single season save record.

Just add 10 wins to each of their current records. There's nothing difficult about this.