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QUOTE(sircaffey @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:23 AM) I don't think Mac needed to "counsel of his attorney" to decide not to answer any questions. It doesn't take a lawyer to tell you if you used and want to avoid questions about it, take the 5th. A dollar to a donut his attorney instructed him in the regard.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:27 AM) http://www.healthtalk.ca/obesity_life_031705_399312.php So. McDonald's is a government plot to save SS?

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) Huh, fine, go ahead and think that.... *loud sigh*

Oh hell! ... I can't remember the name of the movie, but Danny Devito answers the phone with this classic: "No, Debbie can't come to the phone right now. She has my dick in her mouth." Hangs up and says "I love wrong numbers."

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:11 AM) Lol, that was great Steff... Not only great, but EVERY WORD OF IT IS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

As one of the congressman said, this the first inning of an extra inning ballgame. McGwire may have used his "Get Out of Jail Free" card yesterday. Next time, he may not be so lucky.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:14 AM) Yeah they don't share your opinion so they are idiotic. How arrogent and condesending. Careful. He'll think you're an ignorant UK fan. :rolly

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 08:05 AM) McGwire wouldn't be in trouble for Andro, as A it wasn't illegal then, and B wasn't banned by baseball then. Its the "other" stuff people are interested in. True. However, if his attorney instructed him to evade answering any question of substance (pardon the pun), he would not even come close to doing so. Think about it. When people do have to invoke the fifth, the usually won't answer any question beyond confirmation of their name.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:01 AM) Dorn COULD play 3B when he wanted to. Think Kenny Williams Only after taking enough ground balls to make him look like he had run a guantlet. But Kenny Williams works too.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 08:24 AM) Or plead the 5th. Or blame a fifth.

QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 08:43 AM) This is true. Unfortunately, he would play better third base with a shield than a glove. Oooo he's scary over ther. Dorn.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 08:40 AM) I think the reason McGwire's taking so much heat is that he had made emphatic public denials about steroids, up to a day or two before the hearings, but when asked under oath, he said nothing, shook his head meekly, and didn't want to "talk about the past". Believe them or not, the others at least said SOMETHING. But for McGwire to turn into a lamb under oath is pretty damning in the court of public opinion. I know I turned to my wife and said "yeah, he definitely used"....not that I thought he hadn't..... I blame congress for not forcing his hand, but certainly see your point.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 08:47 AM) I wrote this in another thread. If you read Sammy's denial carefully, he's not lying. The wording is interesting and he leaves it open for him to be able to play dumb later. I think I recall your post. The key word getting Sammy of the hook is "illegal", correct? That won't fly because while anabolic steroids were not "illegal" within the confines of MLB, the are illegal within the USA.

McGwire is taking a public beating after the testimony and I'm not sure its deserved. Do you believe Sosa and Palmeiro? I damn sure don't believe Sosa as he is a proven liar (leaving game early). Raffy, I'm undecided on yet. He never appeared on the steroid horizon till the Canseco book came out. Raffy seemed to be very adamant about his denial and looked right at the congressional panel as emphatically denied using. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt, at this point. But, back to McGwire. The one thing you know he didn't do yesterday is lie. He said nothing of substance, so he couldn't have lied. For the moment, the panel let him get away with and did not even force him to either answer the question or invoke the fifth. I believe MM did exactly what he was told to do by his attorney, and he can't be faulted for that. The congressmen could have and should have forced McGwire to either s*** or get off the pot.

Awwww. I'm getting all choked up here. Seriously, I know I've enjoyed my 2+ years here at Soxtalk and plan to continue to do so. I have to say that I am personally impressed by the intelligence level of the membership here, regardless of whether it's baseball knowledge or the general topics discussed in SL&P. Great community of Sox fans.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) I don't want our guys throwing as hard as they can. When you play in one of the best hitter's parks it's foolish to live & die by the fastball like the Cubs staff does (Wood, Prior, Zamby). It's more important for ChiSox pitchers to induce GB outs than to K guys out. Power is over-rated at the Cell. That goes for bats & arms alike. But in the same context you need power in the rotation & the pen to compete in the bigger parks on the road. Too bad Maddux didn't sign with us. Ground ball outs aren't as effective on the road as they are at home?

QUOTE(toasty @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 12:38 AM) Wasn't andro legal when mac was using it? Why would it really matter if he used it if it were legal then? Mac would not be in trouble for using andro back then. The reason he didn't "admit" to using andro today is because he was following the advice of counsel and not saying anything, about anything, that had any substance whatsoever.

In regards to McGwire crying ... I may have perspective that most people don't. His emotions boiled to the surface when he was taking about the Hootens and the other family that had lost their son. I lost a son in car wreck a few years ago. If McGwire was putting himself in their shoes, I can certainly relate. Now, he may have just been grandstanding. But, I'm just saying I can relate. Probably more than McGwire can imagine, but still ... I could relate.

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) I've got a bad taste in my mouth about Curt.... Is it just me or does anyone else feel like he was talking like his s*** don't stink..? I actually felt like Curt had a lot that he wanted to say, but knew time was at a premium.

I'm doing more listening than typing.

McGwire is gonna take the fifth. Palmeiro is either taking a hell of a gamble or very sincere about about the issue. Thomas and Schilling are getting their props for being outspoken against steroids for all these year. Sosa didn't seem to say anything substantial at all. It remains to be seen with him.

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Please, please, PLEASE grant him immunity NOW!!!!!!! Ain't gonna happen.

I'm glad Canseco brought this out, but he's a slime bag.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 01:28 PM) I'm so happy for Frank. This is really going to put Frank in a really positive light for the remainder of his career. Yes it will. After all these years of Frank being portrayed as a bad guy and Sosa being God's gift to Chicago ... What goes around, comes around.

We are getting to the good stuff now.