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Transaction Primer

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 12:51 PM) Who exactly are you to ask them to open their books up. This is not a publicly traded firm, that has shareholders. This is a private entity that is run by a group of investors. The money and everything from the team is between them and the IRS. How the f*** is this still being being brought up, we have a 100+ million dollar payroll. Its not like we are the marlins, we have a s***load of money invested into this team. THe owner who has brought 7 championships to this town mind you gets all these cracks on how cheap he is. Stop parroting a marriotti article and apply some logic. Teams that dont draw 3 million fans, and still have a 100 million dollar payroll are not cheap.

QUOTE(AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 11:20 AM) so 17 pages and nothing really to report on. You summed it up quite nicely.

To interrupt someone while they are having dinner is rude and obnoxious behavior. If the poster is an adult, it's inexcusable. If the poster is a kid, his parents need to learn some social tact. Sorry to be so harsh, but that's the way I see it.

This is from a Rob Neyer article that I bookmarked just for times like this. Emphasis mine.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 09:51 PM) I always say offense first, but our other options in CF are so bad right now that Anderson kinda has to be the starting CF. Yet in just about every sport, it's defence that wins championships. In baseball, it's pitching. But pitching is a big part of defence.

QUOTE(Cali @ Mar 17, 2008 -> 05:24 AM) Except for October of 2005, thats how it's ALWAYS been on Soxtalk. Why do you think I rarely post anymore except in the SLaM board? It's f***ing annoying.... To a certain extent there has always been a level of negativity on Soxtalk. It seems more vicious and more pronounced since October of '05. I agree with your last sentence 100%.

Regarding Jason being 'pissed', well if I am reading him right it's not so much about this incident with Floyd having a bad day and getting ripped for it. It's about the constant, neverending b****ing and moaning that seems to go on ih here. I know I've had to take a few extended breaks from Soxtalk because of it. It gets old and it gets old fast. Jason wants Soxtalk to better than that. It seems like some people are just mad at the world and have chosen Soxtalk as their own personal venting place. Aren't we lucky? I mean if you are going to sit down at your computer with your fangs bared, well personally I'd rather you didn't. But hey, that's just me.

QUOTE(KevinM @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 09:08 AM) I would much rather have Swish come up with Cabrera on base then have Cabrera come up with Swish on base. Here's a few reasons why I would prefer Swish leading off. First and foremost, he has a high OBP. Second, he takes pitches. I believe he was 7th in the AL in average pitches per PA. Also Cabrera is just and damn good number 2 hitter. If Swish gets on base more often to lead off the game, as his OBP indicates he will probably do, then you have a very good handler of the bat up there to move him into scoring position. You also have more instances of having a runner on base with no outs with Swish leading off. If Cabrera leads off and doesn't get on base, wish is more likely to happen, then Swish gets on ... you probably have a man on first, one out for Thome as opposed to a man in scoring position, one out. Of course, I'm aware the OC will get on base as well, but I'm talking about how Swish's superior OBP should come into play more often and more in the Sox favor with him leading off.

QUOTE(KevinM @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 09:00 AM) I would much, much rather have Cabrera-Swisher then 3-4-5. Not me. Swish, OC then 3-4-5

Good read. Thanks for posting that link.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 08:35 AM) If the cubs wanted to make an impact and win the world series, They would of emptied the bank and their minor leagues to pick up Johan. Even if they get Roberts, facing Johan 2 times in a short series, or god forbid Haren and Web in a 5 game series will be very hard to beat. Even if they got out of the NL, the monsters of the AL would sweep them. The Cubs were swept by the team that was swept by the team that was swept by the RedSox.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 10:44 PM) cowboys are southern? So now Colorado, Nebraska, North and South Dakota, Kansas, Iowa, etc. are all Southern states? BTW, Illinois sits further south than Kentucky and Virginia. And at least from the stories I've read, cowboys were among the least racist groups. The cabaleros from Mexico worked side by side with the Anglos. As long as you could get your work done, all was cool. Here is a list of race riots in the US. North vs. South, you make the call. That is incorrect. Parts of southern Illinois sits farther south than parts of northern Kentucky. Cairo is the southernmost point in Illinois, which is bordered by the northernmost KY county along the Mississippi.

This may have been the result of some kind of phobia on her part. I've heard of people staying their homes for years due to fear of going out in public. This lady's area of comfort was just a bit more localized.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:33 AM) That's fine. I actually think southern people are generally MUCH kinder than us up here in the colder, siberian type regions. This, along with waffle houses, are two reasons I enjoy my time in the southland. I'm sure there are a lot of remarks made towards southerners around here though. I honestly don't really have any problems with the south. Even in the case of standing by my accounts of race in the south, the south has really had much less time to improve it's racial relations than the north with the roots in the civil war and the 60's riots and such being most based in the south. So even in standing by what I said about it being more racist in the south, I would also counter my own statement by saying there has been tenfold more race relations improvement in the south than in the north since, say, 1970. It wouldn't surprise me either if a generation from now, when i'm in my mid 40's, if the north is eventually more racist, because as the generations go by, the south is improving in this department moreso than the north. It's just right now I think what I think, in large part because the north had a huge head start going back generations to improve race relations. But maybe if I had clarified it in this way at the start, it wouldn't have hit a nerve with you, even if you disagree with me. Let me start out by saying that I don't mean this in a condescending way in any way. However, if you are in your mid-20's then there is no way you can have as much of a well rounded view of things as I do, with 25 or so years more of living life. Again, not intended to be demeaning or to say I don't respect your point of view. Personally, I don't buy your argument that the north had a huge head start in anything. That's what you were taught in your northern, liberal schools. And, before you jump in to say I don't know what I'm talking about regarding the schools, I spent my childhood in the Chicago burbs and went through the school system. In fact, I didn't realize the indoctrination that was occuring while I was in those schools, but was able to see it in retrospect. Believe me when I say that north did not welcome the former slaves with open arms. They were segregated from the start, and though there wasn't a George Wallace standing on the schoolhouse steps there were plenty of unhappy people in the area when forced busing was started. I know this for a fact because I lived through it. And yes, forced busing was the term that was used most often because that was the general concensus. Now let me commend you for turning the tide on the direction this conversation was headed, because yes it did strike a nerve. Not much else I can because it did. That's something I also lived through in the Chicago area as I am the child of two Kentuckians. I heard it, felt it, experienced it and lived it.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:28 AM) We really should catch up sometime, even if it's not this trip - at least sometime. Yes we should. It would be great if we tried seeing the Sox in Arlington. I know we tried that once and it didn't work out. But just meeting for a drink is good too. However, I think I'm pretty well booked up for this trip.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:22 AM) Well racism is all about the perspective of the viewee, so I will respectfully agree to disagree. I think both sides in such a debate can see it totally different and, in all honesty, be right in their own way. However, if your saying southern people are just, in general much more kind and understanding whereas northerners are loud and arrogant, that I believe to be unquestionably right. That's just a general culture difference though, as the fact that I am proud of it makes obvious. Fine. We'll agree to disagree. But for the record, I have seen quite a few condescending remarks toward southern Americans on this sight. The type of remarks that you so called righteous and superior (that's the attitude I refering to) northerners would jump on your soapbox over if the same type of stereotypical remark was made against any of a number of minorities. I'll be more diligent about pointing them out in the future.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:17 AM) I would hope you don't actually think this. Well not so much that arrogance is pervasive in the north, because it is and we are proud of it, but I would just hope you don't actually believe there is as much if not more racism in the north, because that might be as ridiculous as it is inaccurate. And I've been in every southern state as well except for North and South Carolina. Damn right I believe it. And that arrogance is not something to be proud of.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 07:07 PM) What sometimes is forgotten is those foreign cars are sold by Americans, are delivered via trains and trucks by Americans, are serviced by Americans. It isn't like a total loss. And, if you live on the border, hookers are legal in Mexico, I like imported beer, so I guess I have to start smoking. I'll be in Texas Friday ... let's go!

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) I'm not just talking about that kind of system. Amtrak is a friggin joke - it could be used so much better all over the country. Also, mass transit includes bus service in towns that range down to pretty small. Not like 500 people small, but a few thousand small. It also includes commercial intercity bus service. When you have a small city, for example a county seat that is the largest city in the county... you may have bus service in that city, if someone can make a profit. That still doesn't help people that live in the unincorporated areas or the smaller communities of the county.

Sheldon Silver, the Assembly Speaker of NY, was just giving a speech lauding Spitszer's accomplishments while he was governor. One of the things he mentioned? An ethics reform bill.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 07:49 PM) Yet another reason why it wold be nice to see us fund mass transit at something a little better than 1/40 of roads. That's cool it you live in a relatively large city or the suburbs of one.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 10:38 AM) /joking It would have been better if the hookers were there He probably didn't want to dish out all that money at one time.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 10:22 AM) <!--quoteo(post=1586620:date=Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:01 AM:name=YASNY)-->QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:01 AM) <!--quotec-->He resigned with his loving wife by his side. I think the man should have stood there himself and not put his poor wife through any more humiliation. Even if it was totally her choice to be there, he should not have let her. And the same goes for any one who has used their wife as crutch when facing a scandal ... from either party. I don't have to play it to know what it is. Sometimes I think a man has stand on his own.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 07:48 AM) Amazing how much hatred and misinformation there is for the south around here. You guys are so full of b.s. it isn't funny. Amen. There's an arrogance that is pervasive in the north. There is certainly as much as if not more racism there than there is here in the south. And I've been in every southern state but South Carolina and Louisiana.