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I think people see Seattle and go "see you just need a good defense to win it all". Seattle is probably going to down in history as one of the best of all time. So were the Ravens and Bucs when they won. The Bills have a good defense, but it's not historic. I also don't think it's close.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 12:48 PM) What kind of threshold is "good to great"? Guys like Eli Manning and Joe Flacco have rings from recent years. Would you even put them in the top 10 of the league? "More than 80% of super bowl winners have a top 15 quarterback" is something I'd call fair. Once you get below top 15 then you're in iffy territory. Good to great would be like border line hall of famers. I consider both Eli and Probably Flacco in that category. I consider both Eli Manning and Flacco top 15 qb. They both had bounce back years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 12:07 PM) Rex Grossman made it to the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl quality QB is overrated. If the rest of the team is outstanding, a guy who can manage the game can win it all. Trent Dilfer has a ring. 48 Super Bowl winners. I show 6 that won with either a game manager type or average QB. Brad Johnson was the last. That was 12 years ago. You aren't winning a Super Bowl without a good to great QB. You probably aren't getting there either.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 11:08 AM) Atlanta does seem like a nice fit. Dimitroff didn't want to hire Rex Ryan though. So instead of being strung along, he took the Buffalo job. I'm starting to think maybe Atlanta didn't want Ryan. They are bringing Todd Bowles in for second interview. That could be the guy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 10:28 AM) That's exactly it. With a defense as talented as their's they don't need one of the best QBs in the league, they need a guy who can move the chains, keep the offense on the field, and keep the defense fresh. They need a top 15 QB to have any chance of going anywhere. They may make the playoffs once or twice, but they aren't going very far. Unless they get a QB. They are also in the division with Tom Brady and Ryan Tannehill, who has gotten better every year.

No one is talking about the play of the game yesterday in Green Bay. Peppers forced fumble on DeMarco Murray who was going to run for a TD almost untouched. His second forced fumble of the game.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 09:25 AM) The Bills went 9-7 with Kyle Orton as their QB. The Jets went 4-12 and they got absolutely curb stomped by the Bills twice. The Bills are a far superior team to the Jets at this point and Rexy loves his defense. The Bills are also not in salary cap hell and he has a far better GM giving him talent in Doug Whaley compared to Idzik. The Bills will be bringing in at least one QB and I wouldn't be surprised to see them bring in 2 or 3. It's not going to be EJ or bust. What qb's could they possibly bring in? There is no good ones out there. Only thing I could see them do is possibly draft someone like Bryce Petty in the second round.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 09:15 AM) Well he thought that Atlanta wanted to hire someone else. SF was going in another direction. He didn't truly want to work in tv. Buffalo offered him $27 million and he took it. That's what happened. If he did it for the cash, well that's one thing. Falcons have a built in offense, something he never had in NY. They need work on defense, but they have the 8th overall pick and a full draft to get better. They are also in one of the worst divisions in the league. I don't know, but it seems like a perfect fit.

I can't figure out why Rex Ryan took the Buffalo job. Isn't that pretty much the Jets about 5 years ago? Great defense with no QB and no first round pick this year. I'll take Matt Ryan and the Falcons defense rebuild any day over that.

Packers have done fine in the playoffs. It's tough to win in the playoffs. Every team has ugly playoffs losses. The key is to make it as much as possible to give yourself more chances. That being said, I have no idea how the Packers win in Seattle. It's gonna take a perfect game.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 08:34 AM) What's crazy though is how little playoff success he has had outside of the one Super Bowl run. In all other seasons, he was 1-4 in the playoffs (before yesterday) and that one victory was over Joe Webb. (I'm not trying to draw any conclusions about Rodgers, just thought it was interesting.) He had 5 touchdowns in the playoff lost to the Cardinals. This game is a perfect example of why W-L isn't a QB stat. He did have some tough games against the Giants and the 49ers twice, but their defense also played awful in two of those games.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 06:26 AM) People act like the cowboys win that game if the dez catch stands. There is no doubt in my mind rodgers leads the packers to a winning score once they got the ball back at the end of the game. The Cowboys couldn't stop him in the late 3rd and 4th quarters. This. I keep hearing "awful call to end a great game". If Dallas scores, the Packers would of had 3 minutes to get in field goal range. Aaron Rodgers was 10-10 in the 4th quarter. After that play was reversed the Packers took the ball and drove sixty yards in less then two minutes. All while taking their time.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 01:09 PM) I question that another team would give up a 4th round pick for Marshall at this point. With the amount of WR coming out of college and having major impact right away. No way I would trade for Marshall, not just his personality, he is getting older. Big WR tend to slow down faster.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 10:55 AM) i just have one request for the new coach and gm.....be on time to your press conferences. That used to drive me nuts about Emery and Trestman, they were always late. I think this is true of a lot of coaches. Mike McCarthy is always late for his press conferences.

Bears focus should be to beat anyone in the division. They went 1-5 last year. 2-4 the year before that.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 04:45 PM) Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 1h1 hour ago- The first words Pace spoke in his interview " I'm here to beat Green Bay". Did he really say that?

After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughter Bill Donohue said something similar.

Ok, so the enablers are included in the 20%. Got it.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) Nobody anywhere said all, except you. You said "Even at the low end, that is hundreds of millions who would like to kill people over a cartoon. The other percent are not victims here at all, but many are in some way enablers themselves." So if not all, you are getting pretty close. 20% want to straight up kill cartoonists, the other percentage are enablers.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) Being obtuse on purpose or just have trouble comprehending what was written? Let me quote you here. "International intelligence estimates anywhere from 10 to 25% of the Muslim population is either for or strongly sympathetic towards this type of action" Quite different from what you just wrote. *edit* Math and reading aside, do you think it is OK or justifiable or anything like that what they did to the people in that office? Are you assigning any of the 'blame' to the editors and people who did the cartoon? You said "Even at the low end, that is hundreds of millions who would like to kill people over a cartoon." The only people I blame in this are the two or three people that did it. I didn't blame all Christians when Anders Breivik murdered 77 people back in 2011. Just like I'm not going to blame all Muslims for this.

Hundreds of millions of Muslims will kill over a cartoon? Ok.

Saints haven't taken 7 players in a draft since 2007. That is amazing.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 10:58 AM) For those that care, which is not many in this thread, a Batman vs Superman trailer is supposed to come out when Jupiter Ascending is released. Can't wait! Although there is no way I'm seeing Jupiter Ascending, so I hope it gets leaked online.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 10:11 AM) The NFL is slowly morphing into the WWF. It was bad officiating, but I don't think it was any conspiracy to throw the game or anything like that. All sports suffer from poor officiating. NFL probably more than the others, but it is also the fastest moving with the most players on the field at one time.

Nothing to see here. This was on 4th down.