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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:30 PM) If its Walker's fault the offense sucks, why wouldn't it be Cooper's fault the bullpen sucks? 2 baseball geniuses, 2 guys who know more about winning and good players than anyone else in the universe, KW and Ozzie, said the bullpen was one of the best in the game coming into this season. They have to be either at the bottom or right next to it now. Coop can't fix 'em. If they fired Coop tomorrow I wouldn't argue either. We have reached blow it up time.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:28 PM) this has to be every bit as statistically amazing as the 2005 bullpen Exactly right, it's the exact same thing in reverse.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:28 PM) Teams would be smart just to start their bullpen against us. Score some runs, then put the starter in ala the Royals a few years back. I thought it was crazy Lou Pinella that tried that in his last year with Tampa in '05. I remember it being talked about when he came here for a series in July.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:28 PM) The papers say MacDougal has options left. Why DL him? Let him go walk AAA hitters in Charlotte. I didn't know that. If he has options, just send him down obviously.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:27 PM) Wow, I totally forgot that. That makes 2 of us.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:26 PM) Doesn't matter....if they get the tying run to 2nd base, you have to play the match-up there. I can't wait for the Ozzie apologists to defend that move. Well the move in general was obviously wrong, but we'd still lose in the 7th or 8th anyways if Logan comes in and gets the out. The move was wrong but it didn't really mean much IMO.

How about: Call up Fields, Prinz, Bukvich, Vasquez Send down Aardsma, Day, Masset to be a AAA starter, DL MacDougal

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:24 PM) Unreal.....how does our manager still have a job? Seriously, put Logan into the f***ing game to face the lefty there. Who pitches the 7th and 8th though? This bullpen is a moot point.

Do we have another guy we could call up in place of Masset?

Hawk just compared Alex Lind to J.D. Drew. LMAO, cannonize the .229 hitting 9 hitter.

This is a Twins series flashback.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:17 PM) Correct me if I am wrong, we can not demote McDougal. Would he not have to clear wavers to go down AND accept his assignment. Not that I imagine teams are lining up for a guy with a 7+ ERA that can't throw strikes. Cliff Politte treatment it is. We can't demote Mac, which is why I think we will DL him.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:16 PM) Aardsma and Day down, MacDougal to DL, Fields/Prinz/Buckvich called up. Fields? Interesting....as long as those 3 guys are gone tomorrow I'm happy though. We need more than 6 arms in the pen though IMO. And Hawk is making me hate Aaron Hill too.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:13 PM) so what's the prediction on the bullpen moves tomorrow? Aardsma for Prinz will be one of them I would assume. Beyond that, who knows. I'm hoping we DL MacDougal and call up Vasquez as well and maybe send Day back down where he belongs and call up Bukvich.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) Crede is trying to make it a challenge for Borass to get him that big contract. Crede sure would look good in a Yankees uniform next year. Or in bed next to Joe Buck. LMAO at your avatar. I literally laughed out loud when I just saw it.

9.06 Bullpen ERA the last 21 games, outstanding. QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) I like the move by Ozzie!! Even for him this is a no brainer. 100 pitches through 5, Danks is in line to get the win but didn't have his great stuff today, Masset is a long reliever, lots of righties in there for Danks including 3 to start this inning....perfect spot to do this.

Here's Masset. Hold it down Nick.

Danks at 99 pitches right now through 5, btw. 0 for 56, inning over, another k. QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:07 PM) any walks in there? Yeah, Uribe walked today for sure. Still though.

CREDEPOPSITUP 0-55

Technical Difficulties!! Boo!!! And we missed seeing Stairs drop another Crede pop up in foul ground.

That actually wasn't an appeal, he just stepped on 2nd. Run scored way before Gooch tagged 2nd though hence the run counts.

0 for 54, two no hitters in a row!!!

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 02:00 PM) Are we sure that the run counts? Yes, the run from 3rd scored WAY before the appeal and thus, the out since the appeal was on the runner at 2nd.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 01:59 PM) Hawk wants Erstad's booty....treasure, of course. Hawk said to Erstad earlier when he disappeared "ARRRRRE YE ENJOYING THE MASSAGE??" Ok, sac fly is fine. WTF, he left early from 2nd?? 3 outs, nice!! Inning over. Run counts but we'll take it.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) Somedays I wish I could be a Pirates fan so when things go bad I could just say "BLIIIMEY" or "AAAAAAAR" or something like that. ARRRRE YE KIDDING ME, THAT WAS A STRIKE, SHIVER ME TIMBERS!!!