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Well I'd call up Bukvich, Prinz, and Vazquez right now and send down MacDougal, Aardsma, and Day....as well as giving Masset more chances. That can't be any worse that what we having going on right now.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:49 PM) The Sox were 33-18 a year ago, this year the Sox are 25-26 after today's game. How far has this team fallen? Ask our GM. 0 for 50, game over.

0 for 49

0 for 48

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:40 PM) Take the high road. If other people want to bump what you said, let them. Don't take any pride in saying things that come true if you know they'll upset people. Why not? If they are going to be assholes, I have no problem following suit.

Aardsma gave up 5 runs in 1 inning, and 2 of the 3 outs were a bunt and a baserunning play after a 2 run hit. Wow.

Ozzie has nobody to bring in because other than Jenks and Logan and sorta Thornton, they ALL suck. Ozzie can't do anything and not end up with the bullpen blowing up, so I can't blame him. We are now 0 for our last 47 against other teams bullpens in contrast, scoring 1 run since May 21st. Our team has no athletic ability, we're old, and our minor league system is below average. Somebody still needs to be fired, and I'd start with KW right now. 7 years, 6 Octobers at home (and yes, that includes this years soon to be October at home). That is not acceptable, and neither is this team. KW and Walker need to go now and we'll ask qustions later, although if Ozzie is gone to, sobeit.

Hey guys, am I still wrong about AAArdsma? Cheat, is he still one of the best relief pitches since the 2nd half of last year? I forget who said this, but is it still a small sample size in his career? No, he sucks and this trade was AAA crap for AAA crap, unless Vazquez ends up being good.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 01:18 PM) That's why this one smells of one of those losses on a 7th inning disaster, I'm very uneasy about this. Boy I had that one pegged didn't I? Ugh.

Where are all you people that ripped me for saying Aardsma is useless? You guys have got pretty quiet lately.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:33 PM) It's not Ozzie's call to pitch around someone....it's Thornton and Hall who should be smart enough to know the situation. My point is it does not matter, our bullpen and our 0 for 47 against the other bullpen is going to lose us the game eventually anyways. The personnel we have sucks and is why we are losing, and that is on the guy that assembled it. Last year was the manager, this year is the GM. That could be the worst strategy play I've seen all year. Giving up a free out against the worst bullpen in baseball? Pathetic.

Even Royce can hit our bullpen. That's like a hit by the pitcher.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:30 PM) Why not pitch carefully to Hill there, who hits lefties well? Lind was on deck, and he's horrific against LHP. They also had just used their only real weapon on the bench. So now we are pitching around Aaron Hill? Come on man, our bullpen sucks and it's all Kenny's fault. No matter what we do this pen is going to lose us just about every close game. A lot of things have been Ozzie's fault the last few years but this is not one of them.

0 for 44

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:28 PM) I don't care if Wells is 0 for his last 100, and Stairs is hitting well....I'll take my chances against Stairs every single time. Ozzie over the last 5 years has made every move imaginable during a game to not let Stairs face us. And when Mac or Aardsma walks Stairs we still are screwed. Today is on Kenny Williams, period.

Now 0 for 43

0 for our last 42 against bullpens with out #1

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:24 PM) I'm sure glad we left in Thornton to face Hill, who is much better against lefty pitching. How does anyone defend Ozzie anymore? Looks like loss #10 when leading in the 6th inning or later. Who do we put in though? All of our righties suck ass right now. As much as I hate Ozzie and think he should be fired, he has nobody to put in there out of the pen. That is on Kenny.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:23 PM) I think it had more to do with MMAC than Stairs Exactly, like I said our righties are so bad in the pen that it's a legit argument to say you'd rather have Thornton vs. a cold Wells than any of our righties against Stairs, and to be honest that is on Kenny's shoulders. Well we have 6 outs to get 1 runs and their closer is hurt. I guess it's possible, although the black hole that is the middle of our order is up this inning.

Ballgame, and the worst part is I'm not even sure who exactly to blame, which might be another example of how EVERYBODY is at fault for this joke of a baseball team.

Well I can't really blame anything there but bad luck. The lucky break on the narrow miss of a 500 foot 2 run homer by Frank comes back to bite us. However now it's a bullpen battle, which almost for sure means a loss.

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:16 PM) Just looking for someone to actually put some thoughts behind doom and gloom statements. I agree with everyone about not liking him out there, but wanted some actual thoughts from people. MacDougal has proven he has ZERO use all year. At least Aardsma had a stretch where he was really good, even if it was a fluke. Yep, here is Wells. I'm having flashbacks to 2 Saturdays ago right now when this happened to Ozzie. However I will admit as sad as it sounds I'd rather have Matty face Wells than ANY of our righties not named Jenks face Matt Stairs. That is how bad our righties are right now.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 02:18 PM) Did MacDougal walk Thomas on purpose? No, if he were trying to walk Frank he'd have thrown it down the middle and gave up a 3 run homer, lol.

Crap I didn't realize Wells was on the bench. This might turn into the D Lee vs. Logan thing all over again.

I know our righties in the pen not named Jenks all suck, but anybody but MacDougal. I'd rather see Dewon Day to be honest. Luckily we were bailed out because Overbay swung 3-1 and happened to smoke it right to somebody, and Thomas walked, so Mike is done for the day. Get it done here Matty.