Princess Dye

Hawk with the endless Florida knowledge

Point blank they shouldnt be booing anyone right now. None of the guys who are 0-for-the-year deserve it more than the other! It's right that Quentin shouldnt be booed. But Wise doesnt deserve it just because he has been a career minor leaguer. He made strides last year just like some of the other guys on this team. Moreso than Fields and Getz, to be honest . People are acting like those two have proven tons, when they're just as much on the hotseat as Wise right now. I mean thats the real question. If Getz starts an 0-for-10 streak should these same pro-boo-Wise people boo him too? Where does it end?

The manager should never respond to the fans and make decisions based solely on booing trends. But if this doesnt improve, you kind of have to wonder whether or not they just try to end this circus and take pressure off him.

Whatever. Fine, Getz can leadoff then.

There's been interesting talk today on this topic in the mainstream media...with this US delegation meeting with Castro. Purely hypothetical...but if the division between these two nations ends, lets say in a few yrs, will that take away the Sox seeming leverage in getting guys from there?

dang, soriano-like

Wise with the soccer style trap of the ball off the wall. But for those who arent watching, no CF gets to that one.

Gavin was able to lure Miguel in on that atbat, string together a couple pitchers pitches

Looks like 2008 is going to repeat itself. I'm saying this 11 innings into the year, hope i'm wrong. well i'll take the division winning part of that i guess

goddamned independent paul konerko

Lotta wasted words from Hawk it turns out

Turtle Squad was right

Ooo Stoney doing his whole "this will be the next pitch" thing This time he was wrong though

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 07:29 PM) Don't mind my in-thread game updates for the other AL Central games By all means keep it coming. JT sure has preserved himself well.

A couple times now i'm seeing that Alexei double clutch, will we see that on something close?

QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 07:00 PM) How could anybody say he's not a WhiteSox fan? apparently rongey himself. i think it's one thing if he's like "sox are my AL team" but we all know that fandom means you have one and live and die for em. I do agree with the above poster that notes how a reporter's fandom should be irrelevant with regard to their ability to do their job.

Ah ok, not sure where i thought i had heard that about rongey Still though, lets get a sox fan in there.

Currently listening to Chris Rongey on radio and watching Dan Roan on TV..... lock thread if i'm wrong on this, but isnt it true that they're both Cub fans? sure CPS is underfunded on the southside but c'mon !

QUOTE (The Bones @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 06:14 PM) I don't mind the idea that he can get hot. He obviously can. But he can also go cold for long stretches as well. My problem is him batting leadoff is not what is best for the team. We have multiple better options right now and DeWayne Wise should not be getting the most ABs of anyone on this team. If you want to start him put him in the 9 spot. Uribe's bat could get hot but he was never the leadoff man. Agreed. I think difference being that with Wise there's a chance he can turn singles into doubles with basestealing. Uribe wont do that. Obviously what remains to be seen is if he can get on first enough for that to matter. In the end I think he'll be in the 9-slot but I guess what's infuriating people most here is the sneaking suspicion that Ozzie doesnt even know his own guys OBPs.

QUOTE (ChesterCopperpot @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 05:16 PM) We need some Wise lovers on this board. It's a bit boring hearing everyone bash the guy over and over. I plan on filling that void with my unbridled love for Moses. 2/4 2 runs and a SB tonight. I love you DE WAYNE! I'm all for Wise. I like the idea of a bat that can get hot, as he seemed to at times last year. I think that's a more valuable trait than our other options at the position.

Whoopsy. Hmm, well I wonder what other names are out there - CFs who can hit a ton and are nearing a payday. Anyone help?

I think what no one's saying is that Getz has been earmarked to leadoff for this team, but they want to ease him into the majors with a less pressure filled spot than leadoff. At least for a bit. In fact we learned from Wise's ST interview that they pretty much told him as much. I'm not so much disgusted by Wise being up there as I really think the organization has to think long and hard about how underutilized they may be leaving Alexei R. As another poster pointed out, while we have no true 2-hitter (if Getz is up in 1)........... Alexei at least cuts down on K's and can put it in play. As we stand, 8 and 9 might be two of the best bats in the lineup... by the time we find out which of the older core guys are deteriorating... it may be too late. We may have lost some games and fallen behind due to waiting for aging sluggers to come around. Alexei needs to be put in a place where he can make an impact. It's really weird, what we're doing right now is saying "hey we have no proven 1-2 hitters, so we'll let hitters 3-9 do what 1-7 should be doing." Which means you're kicking away atbats each game up top.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 05:01 PM) How long before ARam to CF and Beckham to SS?? What gets really interesting is if ARam is excellent defensively at SS.....and Getz becomes a Theriot type in the lineup. Then you get into an odd place. Would the team actually think about moving Beckham, perhaps for a B.J. Upton type, someone developed who can play CF? I'm thinking it'd have to be someone nearing steeper arb prices. Some team would perhaps throw in pitching as well for Beckham, perhaps out of a need to save $ in the current climate. I'm trying to think of near-star level guys who are due for bigger and bigger raises soon.... isnt Baltimore having trouble with getting Markakis on something long term?

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 04:08 PM) I dont like Wise, and call me crazy, but I think he is going to have a good game. What's bad is some Sox fans will root against him. They see all this upside to getting BA in their quicker, so much so that they're willing to risk some wins for it.