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QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 09:14 AM) People on this board? Virtually the whole board is in unanimous agreement about that although there are a handful that still think Wise's little hot streak last year wasn't a fluke. Wise showed an ability to get hot. That's more than I can say for our other options at CF. His PH stats were very good, so at the very least he should be cemented in no less than that role.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Mar 18, 2009 -> 06:52 PM) Old news. Beat like a drum at soxfest. I'm fine with soxfest recapping. I dont really pay much attention to that event, since there's no real baseball going on, it's just a manufactured moneymaker for the team.

Can the Cell book Prince? Perhaps then we can afford some FAs. "This is going to sound odd, but Elton John's going to help us win some ballgames," Kenney said. "The CBOE [seat] auction last year paid for Rich Harden. The 'Road to Wrigley' game sponsored our Asian scouting operation. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,7763341.story This all makes me upset but i'm not sure in what way yet.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 17, 2009 -> 10:01 PM) You do not know that Anderson cannot do that. Do not say something you cannot prove. How many more years will we say this? Will BA get to 32 years of age and still be the untested unknown Babe Ruth. Ae!

OK, the FO has conditioned me and now i'm pumped: bring on Wise/BA platoon. I mean its not like i have any other choice. Maybe Wise can sustain something decent in the way of a batting average. I would like Getz to come up and take leadoff however, coming out of the box strong and impressing Ozzie

Granderson was a Braves fan, despite his roots.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 05:08 AM) does anyone here honestly think chris getz is a better option at 2B than beckham to start the season, and is a better (more capable) baseball player at this point in time? It's possible to rush a guy along too fast too. I'm not saying Beckham has the mental makeup to get down on himself and what not. But it could happen, it's still an unknown. I dont think Beckham is the last piece of the puzzle to a championship right now, so let him destroy at AA for awhile. Then you get to finally see whats going on with a guy like Getz and either find a place for him for years up at the club, or see if he can be a tradeable asset.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 15, 2009 -> 11:16 AM) The best option might be Ramirez in CF, Getz at 2B, and Beckham at SS. I just don't know if Beckham is ready defensively and he obviously still is pretty inexperienced, but darn does he look good. I was of this mindset also. But AR's range and rocket arm are probably gonna take SS for years to come.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 06:21 PM) Given Williams interest in the past regarding Edmonds, it has to be fairly safe to assume he has checked back in with Jim this off-season. If something was going to happen, it probably would have been taken care of a few weeks ago. I really honestly believe that KW and Ozzie both wanted to give Owens every opportunity to take this thing, and his piss poor performance is really making them JUST NOW realize they cant go to war with this guy. So it's possible they were holding off on Edmonds til that was clear. But at the same time they seem pretty happy with Wise given what they're paying. They are apparently saving up to make a wallop in free agency next year. I hope. If they were willing to bring in Erstad, coming off the crap year he was having way back with LAA, then they should be willing to make an offer to Edmonds, who while older had more success more recently than Erstad had at that point.

watching the first half of this on tape now. Someone needs to tell "Alissay" this is bad timing. The Willis Tower wounds are still fresh. EDIT: but oh jesus i just saw the 360 spin put out, all is forgiven

You gotta just play Wise against righties, get BA in late for defensive replacement. Normally I'd hate to go to the 4th OF so regularly, but you have that nice option of Alexei as an emergency OF in case of injury/extra innings freak scenarios.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 05:42 PM) And somewhere in Glendale, a lone tear slowly rolls down Jerry Owens' cheek. The Sox havent sounded all that interested in leading off Getz or Lillibridge. So BA has always been kind of cemented in 4th OF to me. And of course late innings replacement, they liked the way he handled that role last year.

bwahahaha BA reacting like it's everyday occurrence, sort of like Pablo with his no doubter HR that time.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 14, 2009 -> 04:32 PM) Betemit's easily going to be the most dangerous PH we've had in a long time. Wise had a very nice year pinchhitting last yr, albeit not being here the whole yr

Lets assume he repeats something along the lines of his rookie year...and does something like that throughout his prime. After all he was 26 last yr. So - for the bulk of his career - where do you see him being the best fit in the order?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 13, 2009 -> 03:33 AM) We have Jordan Danks, Lillibridge, Beckham and Shelby III in the pipeline...not understanding why we're more concerned with 3-5 seasons from now at this point in spring training. Of the ones you list, the only one that can be considered a gem is probably not going to be a leadoff hitter when he hits his MLB stride. You keep piling prospects, even if there are current holes you cant assume the future's really set anywhere. Instead of trading for leadoff guy now, I want us to do what we're doing and target next year for a "now" move, when money comes off the books. Right now we're doing a decent job piling prospects but they have to find some more gems who can bat high up in the order. I'd like them to try to draft a leadoff hitter who has the makeup to be a potential No.2 hitter if need be. EDIT: although yes i agree with the posts saying you cant draft solely on need. Our situation is a little logjam like though. If you're drafting college guys, I would stay away from power hitters unless there was one guy blowing me away. Reason being I think with CQ, Beckham, AR, Viciedo, Fields, Allen...plus the possibility of one of our aging guys being viable for 2-3 more yrs... based on that, i think you're going to (one way or another) have 3-4-5 locked up for the next few years. 1-2 however is very far from locked up and worth investing picks in. The biggest question marks I list above are Viciedo and Allen. Everyone who's viable for the 1-2 slots, organization-wide, is a bigger question mark than all those listed power guys besides Allen. Plus lets say two of those leadoff hitters pan out. It's no crime, then ya got a 1-2 or maybe 9 and 1. I think Lillibridge is a 9 if he makes it in MLB, in that he's older.

So what's the deal with Egbert? Is he not really in the mix as a reliever? Article makes it seem like, for the time being, it's 5th starter outside chance, or nothing (regarding opening day)

Wow, just wow

If this team isnt willing to go get a FA, Beckham needs to be up here.

What is a Darwin Barney

Wilson Bete-NO-mitt

b/c we wouldnt do this

The reason i bring this up is most people here doubt Owens can be more than a slap singles hitter. From what I can see the organization has done well with leadoff hitters that dont hit doubles. If JO can do even a little worse than that storied end of 0607 stretch.... i think he could be at least passable and enough for a winning team.

I'm about 3 yrs too young to remember Rudy Law...in the winning year i see he was maybe average as a leadoff guy (i should say besides stealing bases). If you remember him, briefly describe what he was like, perhaps chart him with regards to other past Sox leadoff guys. Pods statistically was not off the charts in '05, this i know. obviously he got things going at opportune times and will always be remembered as such. Leads up to the question: can our leadoff hitter --even if just average to slightly below--be at least as good as the ones we had in winning years?

So who for sure can backup ss??