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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 09:15 PM) When ADA gets back, you have to consider sitting Viciedo more against RHP. That shoulder injury seemed to ruin any rhythm he might have been getting into. I wouldn't risk it. He still has time to get hot and carry the team. He crushed a ball tonight that's a HR in every other park around. I'd rather have the ceiling be much higher than the floor raised a little.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 08:56 PM) Jesus f***ing Christ, we may get swept, but can we just play the damn games without the constan pessimism. Why do some of you even follow this team if all you ever want to do is predict doom and gloom. Good post. Both these teams do suck right now though.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 08:52 PM) I think most people deep down knew we're getting swept this weekend. We can't beat the tigers in Detroit right now. That's just the truth. We can still win this, however, after being tied for the division lead on Sept 3. Why not? The Tigers suck. This series is about which team can out suck the other one. Both these teams are going to get worked in the play off unless they pick it up.

With how s***ty the rest of the team has looked, I can't even get mad at Thornton.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 08:39 PM) Thornton was not a good matchup for these guys. They're all fastball hitters. And doesn't throw ground balls.

This is one ugly game played by 2 teams who aren't very good right now.

That was the worst looking charge by a 3rd baseman I've ever seen in my life. Seriously. I came to the gamethread specifically to make fun of that fat f***.

Viciedo has adjusted well on every level. For now, his production is adequate. Give him time and he'll be a beast. I'm setting a PayPal account for bets as we type.

QUOTE (My_Sox_Summer @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 12:28 PM) Really. Spending money makes you more of a fan? I don't think so. Game attendance doesn't matter much either, I think it's more than that. I bet there are people out there that have been to way less games than I have this year but are bigger fans. I am located (and you too if your name is true) that makes it very easy for us to catch a ton of games. I love baseball and I love going to the games, but I don't think the two are linked to being a bigger fan. Read what I said, if you HATE Hawk you are not a die hard Sox fan. Once again, I don't think it needs to be stated, but it is my view only. Name me a cutting edge baseball announcer that is saying something original? Most of the guys up there are just so vanilla. Hawk at least tries to be different. I can understand why some people don't like him, but not Sox fans, IMO. I didn't realize one's level of fandom correlated with their opinion of the announcer. I can't stand AJ and Beckham either. Alex Rios is my second favorite player. I love Alexei. I loved Frank when everybody hated him. I look back on Albert Belle fondly. Where do I turn in my fan card?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) Granted, you learn a heck of a lot about baseball from Len Kasper. Who's Len Kasper?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 10:07 AM) There is no doubt in my mind, White Sox fans have learned more about baseball from Hawk, than any other fans in MLB have learned from their PBP guy. Jesus

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 08:49 AM) Talk about absolutes........... Announcers are known for their home run calls. Hawk's known for that as well as DP calls, "should be........rack 'em up", and many more. I was at my friends house watching the game one time and his wife had no idea how we knew exactly what he would say a lot of the time. Maybe some don't like it but I love to say he gone on a strikeout. Or can of corn, or right size, wrong shape, or get foul...it will, thank you very much. To me, its like being with a fan at a game. As I've said, his ranting about umpires does get old after a while, but the other stuff will never get old to me. I don't mind a Yaz or Catfish story. He loves the White Sox, and knows the game. I personally couldn't ask for more in the booth. I'm not looking for a WWF style announcer to entertain me with catchphrases.

QUOTE (My_Sox_Summer @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 07:21 PM) If you hate Hawk, you aren't a die hard fan IMO. Not that it's wrong, just my view. But yes, having people go from one extreme to another (even within a fan base) means you are doing something right IMO. That means people have an opinion on what you do and you aren't some vanilla soft serve up there just. I love Hawk. He IS White Sox baseball. I don't agree with him 100% of the time, but that is why I like him. Makes ya think. So, dedicating time and money to go to or watch about 130 games a year doesn't make one a die hard Sox fan. Their adoration for Ken Harrelson is what really does it? Hawk is White Sox baseball to you, not me. Hawk makes you think? He hasn't said anything original in 20+ years and he makes you think? Really?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 04:48 PM) I think some of the people who hate Hawk are like people who hate certain movie critics. Everybody thinks they can do better. Uh, not quite. It's a talent and Hawk has talent IMO. I think you project your own thoughts onto others a lot.

Hawk's harmless, but annoying. He's all schtick. His catchphrases get old. He repeats the same stories. He doesn't have a whole lot of original insight anymore. He's starting to get a little senile/blind. The "stretch" on routine fly balls is a joke. Most importantly, he tends to speak in absolutes too much. Everything is the best or worst thing ever. He's tempered it with the "he might not be the best ever, but there's none better" line, but it's still grating. I really don't have the same feeling of sentimentality as most of you.

I liked him when I was 12, but I'm a grown man now.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Aug 26, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) we swept 2 teams in a row. Not bad. Bench mob coming through big time, just like they have all year long for us. Can somebody burn this post?

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Aug 26, 2012 -> 05:30 PM) I was one of 'em. Of course, for a long while he was dreadful. Glad as hell that he's turned it around. He's turned into a plus defensive catcher who calls a good game. That's all that matters IMO. The power is just a bonus.

Steve Stone's humor is underrated. Dude's funny.

I knew there was no way we could get to the mighty Kevin Millwood.

Awesome. It's pouring on the west side now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 26, 2012 -> 05:17 PM) It's not even raining at Wrigley Just started on the west side again.

Haven't we done well all year with the hangover line ups?

QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 26, 2012 -> 04:47 PM) Bottom of the 4th is gonna be the last threat we had i think There's no chance for us to make up one run against the juggernaut that is Kevin Millwood.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 26, 2012 -> 03:52 PM) Seems pretty likely actually Based on what?